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Saline Environmental Group

Minute of Meeting of 27.11.12

Saline Community Centre

1. Present

John Lyon (chair) David Chisholm, Joan Featherstone, Donald Murdoch, Jim Hensman, Roddey Jones, Ken Fraser, Till Kroeber, Adrienne Lyon


2. Apologies

Liz Pullar, Sally King, Jackie Kerr


3. Minutes of Meeting of 30.10.12

Approved. Moved by Jim Hensman, seconded by David Chisholm


4. Matters Arising

None.


5. Treasurer’s Report

JF reported that she and AL had completed the handover of the books. Changes to cheques signatories have been held up by the bank and she left forms for Jim Hensman and John Crane to complete. In the meantime, AL will continue as a signatory

It was noted that the fee for the CES conference had been charged at the member rate and that more people could attend next year if necessary, subject to funds being available


6. Updates

Community Energy Scotland Conference: TK reported on attendance and discussions with other organisations. He felt that it was important for the community to be involved with known pressure for more wind developments. It was felt that consultation should be progressed but that it would be better via the Community Futures Steering Group. Till later gave a more detailed presentation to the Community Council (see attached minutes for more details)

Saline Glen: JF reported that Sally King felt that the price being sought for the land was excessive. In view of the short remaining time and absence of others, it was felt that this should be discussed in more detail at the next meeting


7. AOCB

DM advised that Community Energy Scotland had queried the absence of a clause in the constitution requiring that Board members are not paid for carrying out their duties. It was confirmed that only receipted expenses have been paid and it was agreed that an appropriate clause be added to the constitution.


JH advised that the village Christmas tree would be delivered on Saturday 8th December and that he was looking for volunteers to erect it. JL suggested that a contribution of £100 towards the cost should be made and this was agreed. However, it was felt that a live tree would be more sustainable in future and should be agreed with the community council


DM advised that Sally King had given him an idea for speeding up discussion of minutes. It was agreed that this was worth pursuing and that Sally be asked to circulate details with a view to discussing at the next meeting


8. Date of Next Meeting

Tuesday 29th January 2013 at 6.30pm in Saline Community Centre.


 

Saline Environmental Group

Minute of Meeting of 29.11.11

Saline Community Centre

1. Present

John Lyon (Chair) Donald Murdoch, Joan Featherstone, Libby Hughes, Linda Moyes, Mark Baugh, Craig Mitchell, Till Kroeber, Liz Puller, Catherine Cousar, Mary Mitchell, Jim Hensman


2. Welcome

John Lyon welcomed new members to the meeting


3. Apologies

Jan Williams, Jenny Ventham, David Chisholm, Adrienne Lyon


4. Minutes of Previous Meetings

Proposed by John Lyon, seconded by Craig Mitchell


5. Matters Arising

None


6. Updates

  • Oakley Path: The Lottery bid has been submitted for the first phase to Kinneddar Park. This is a two part process. Competition is likely to be stiff. Andy Easton has had discussions with the landowners along the whole route. He is reasonably confident that Mr. Templeton will agree provided conditions are met. Mr. Templeton has suggested that his access be moved to improve safety. While this is not the group’s responsibility, there is merit in the proposal and there seems to be support from Kinneddar Park residents. It was agreed that David Chisholm be asked to set up a meeting with Mr. Templeton Mr. Stevenson has suggested that the Cowstrandburn to Kinneddar Park right of way be reinstated to its original route that terminates opposite Comrie Colliery access road. There is merit in this but the land belongs to Mr. Templeton and the planning consent for the opencast site requires reinstatement to the current line. Alison Irvine has indicated that she will support the community preference. In the meantime, it was agreed that we continue to liaise with Messrs Templeton and Stevenson. Both farmers consider that the two fields north of the Comrie Colliery access road owned by Forestry Commission Scotland should remain in agriculture. DM has written to FCS on this and suggested that consideration be given to swapping for more suitable tree planting areas. FCS responded that this was not possible in view of rules imposed on the commission. It was felt that we should look for ways to achieving a satisfactory outcome. DM has met LRD re the use of their land and established that the company is supportive and are prepared to donate fill materials for the path

  • Glen Entrance: Awaiting details of works and costs from the Horticultural Society

  • Communities Future/Development Trust; Meetings have been held to take forward a development trust that David Chisholm, John Lyon, Donald Murdoch and Mark Baugh have attended. It was confirmed that the trust would not oversee or take on responsibilities of current groups but would be able to do things that others couldn’t. Meetings are advertised in the Community Bulletin and there is no restriction on participation. In the meantime, this group is “leading” on the Paths and Access theme. MB referred to Richard Lyon’s talk at the AGM and suggested that there was a need to look to taking forward the ideas of an energy sustainable community. There was considerable discussion on this and it was felt that this could be taken forward through the Community Future debates JL indicated that Mike Travers had offered to give a presentation on Energy Costs. It was felt that this should not be part of a regular meeting and merited more serious discussion. It was therefore agreed that a public meeting be arranged and that JL should agree a date and time with Mike


7. Other Projects

DM suggested that there might be a need to identify other projects. It was agreed that thought be given to this and discussed at a future meeting


8. Treasurer’s Report

In the treasurer’s absence, it was agreed that this be carried forward to the January 2012 meeting. However, it was noted that there is a need to consider fund raising


9. AOCB

  • It was noted that David Chisholm had raised the issue of grass cutting at the community council and that the matter had been taken up with Fife Council. A response is awaited


10. Date of Next Meeting

Tuesday 31st January at 6.30pm in Saline Community Centre


Saline Environmental Group

Minute of Meeting of 18.10.11

18 Main Street, Saline

1. Present

John Lyon (Chair) Adrienne Lyon, Donald Murdoch, Linda Moyes, Mark Baugh, Till Kroeber Craig Mitchell, Joe Fitzpatrick, Catherine Cousar, Janet Murdoch, Richard Lyon, Marylla Ferguson, Catherine Cousar, Roddy Jones, Derek Robertson, John Le Marie, Tom Dodds, Jim Hensman, Stewart Miller, Joselyn Miller, Elsie Hannah, Mike Travers, Sheila Travers, Frances McDiarmid, Liz McMullan, Peter McMullan, J James, Kath Lindsell, R Hutchieson, L Hutchieson


2. Welcome

John Lyon welcomed everyone to the meeting


3. Apologies

Jan Williams, Jenny Ventham, David Chisholm, Libby Hughes, Bobby Clelland, Bill Walker, Gareth Turner, Christine Turner


4. Chair’s Report

John Lyon circulated his report on the year’s activities


5. Treasurer’s Report

Adrienne Lyon circulated copies of the year’s annual accounts


6. Election of Office Bearers

Stewart Miller took the chair for the election of the following

  1. Chair: John Lyon. Proposed by Donald Murdoch, seconded by Marylla Ferguson

  2. Vice Chair: David Chisholm. Proposed by John Lyon, seconded by Jim Hensman

  3. Secretary: Donald Murdoch. Proposed by Adrienne Lyon, seconded by Catherine Cousar

  4. Treasurer: Adrienne Lyon. Proposed by Jim Hensman, seconded by Donald Murdoch

7. Speaker: Richard Lyon

Richard gave an interesting and thought provoking talk on the future of oil as a resource and its consequences. He gave examples of community energy initiatives and suggested that this could be appropriate for Saline but also that action is needed now.


8. Vote of Thanks

Jim Hensman thanked Richard and commented on his own experiences in the former Soviet Union


9. Date of Next Ordinary Meeting

Tuesday 29th November at 6.30pm in Saline Community Centre


Saline Environmental Group

Minute of Meeting of 27.09.11

18 Main Street, Saline

1. Present

John Lyon (Chair) Adrienne Lyon, Donald Murdoch, Joan Featherstone, Roger Featherstone, Libby Hughes, Linda Moyes, Mark Baugh, Craig Mitchell, Joe Fitzpatrick, David Chisholm, Richard Smith, Liz Pullen, Catherine Cousar, Bill Pretsell


2. Welcome

John Lyon welcomed Bill Pretsell to the meeting


3. Apologies

Jan Williams, Jenny Ventham, Jim Hensman


4. Minutes of Meeting of 30.08.11

Proposed by Joan Featherstone, seconded by David Chisholm


5. Matters Arising

None


6. Updates

  • Oakley Path: DM has circulated the draft Lottery bid. It is also necessary to complete an Options Appraisal that will also be circulated shortly

  • Glen Entrance: Nothing to report

  • Communities Future/Development Trust; David Chisholm advised on his participation at the Development Trust Association annual conference. This suggested that setting up a trust was not as daunting as first thought. The visit to Renton has still to be arranged while some members are aware of Newburgh initiatives. JF indicated that 4 people had complained that DC had not returned phone calls. DC indicated that one person had called Kay Jackson and left a message but hadn’t left a number. However, they were known to Kay and would be contacted in due course

  • Meeting with Scotways. JL indicated that there was little to report. Scotways are seeking to repair or replace existing signs and needed to contact the landowners. LP and CC asked that signs should refer to “path” rather than “footpath” The alleged right of way to Leckerstone had been discussed but no action was considered possible without the owners’ agreement. It was agreed that there was a need to think about future paths for work after the Oakley path progresses Bill Pretsell asked about access for disabled people to paths and Forestry Commission land. All of the group’s paths will be designed to permit disabled use except in exceptional topographical circumstances. The Forestry Commission will be making key paths accessible and will discuss this as part of their design plan consultations. All access will be free. Disabled access by cars is a matter for the Forestry Commission.

6. Treasurer’s Report

The current balance is £1346.67 . £500 has been received from Blairhall Community Association while £1200 is due from the community council. Against this, money is due to Andy Easton while DC submitted Links Media’s invoice for printing the Action Plan


7. Future Meetings/AGM

It was noted that the times of the community council meetings had been changed to 7.30 to meet Fife Council’s booking requirements. After discussion of options, it was agreed that future SEG meetings will start at 6.30. However, for the AGM, it was agreed that this should be held on 18th October at 7pm and that Richard Lyon be asked to give a talk on energy


8. AOCB

  • Bill Pretsell complained about Fife Council’s grass cutting. This was not a matter for the group but DC offered to raise the matter at the community council meeting

  • J and AL were thanked for making their home available for the meeting at short notice


8. Date of Next Meeting

Tuesday 18h October at 7pm in Saline Community Centre (AGM) Tuesday 29th November at 6.30 (regular meeting) Both meetings will be in the community centre


 

Saline Environmental Group

Minute of Meeting of 30.08.11, Saline Community Centre

1. Present

John Lyon (Chair) Adrienne Lyon, Donald Murdoch, Joan Featherstone, Roger Featherstone, Libby Hughes, Linda Moyes, Jim Hensman, Mark Baugh, Craig Mitchell, Alec Mitchell, Ann Trigwell, David Chisholm,

2. Welcome

John Lyon welcomed Mark Baugh and Ann Trigwell to the meeting

3. Apologies

Jan Owen, Jenny Ventham

4. Minutes of Meeting of 26.07.11

Proposed by Joan Featherstone, seconded by Libby Hughes

5. Matters Arising

None

6. Updates

  • Oakley Path: An application for phase 1 funding is being prepared for submission to the BIG Lottery. If approved, there may be delays between money being spent and income received, which will need to be taken into account. Forestry Commission Scotland is unwilling to swap land with farmers due to rules set by the Government

  • Glen Entrance: The site has been re-sprayed with weedkiller

  • Community Garden: Richard Smith has confirmed that the site opposite the shop still belongs to Fife Council. Regarding the church site, if Church of Scotland finally agree a lease, it will be necessary to submit new applications. However, whatever happens, we should look to doing something that will encourage children

  • Communities Future/Development Trust; David Chisholm advised on progress and on a visit to Renton. He has also prepared a newsletter in response to this being highlighted during the consultation. This will be circulated shortly. Ann Tigwell indicated that the school would contribute articles

6. Treasurer’s Report

The current balance is £1341.67 less money paid to Andy Easton for survey and design work, and the flower tub. Funds are now very low and DM will chase up contributions due from the West Fife Villages Community Planning Group and Blairhall Community Association

7. AOCB

  • A meeting with Alison Irvine (Access Officer) and Alistair Lawson (Scotways) has been arranged for 2pm on 2nd September in the church hall. All are invited

  • Members were reminded of the Annual Flower and Produce Show

  • Invite from W Fife Woodlands to presentation on possible wind turbines on FCS land

  • Jim Hensman indicated that the West Fife Villages Calendar was now on sale

8. Date of Next Meeting

Tuesday 27th September at 7pm in Saline Community Centre


Saline Environmental Group

Minute of Meeting of 27.07.11, Saline Community Centre


1. Present

John Lyon (Chair) Donald Murdoch, Joan Featherstone, Libby Hughes, Richard Smith, Linda Moyes, Jim Hensman, Jenny Crick, Andy Gallagher, Liz Puller,


2. Welcome

John Lyon welcomed Jenny Crick and Andy Gallagher from Forestry Commission Scotland


3. Apologies

Adrienne Lyon, David Chisholm


4. Minutes of Meeting of 26.07.11

Proposed by Joan Featherstone, seconded by John Lyon


5. Matters Arising

Libby Hughes added her apologies for missing the meeting


6. Updates

  • Oakley Path: Discussions have been held with Messrs Templeton and Stevenson who may be interested in swapping land with Forestry Commission Scotland. DM has written to the District Manager about this. AG stressed the need to allow for maintenance and RS advised spending more at this stage

  • Glen Entrance: It was noted that the Horticultural Society had sprayed the site with weedkiller and would be repeating the exercise prior to improvements

  • Forestry Commission Scotland: Jenny Crick introduced Andy Gallagher, her new line manager. The line of the proposed Oakley path was discussed and the possibility of erecting a bridge east of the ford. JC felt that FCS could provide this

  • Kinneddar Park to Cowstrandburn: DM reported on Mr Stevenson’s claim that the right of way runs in a straight line from Cowstrandburn to north of Kinneddar Park. RS agreed to consult Alison Irvine on Fife Council’s position

  • Community Garden: Letters have been sent to Leader and FET. JF referred to the site meeting with Keith Jackson and the question of the gap site opposite the shop. She had been informed that the site did not belong to Fife Council and RS agreed to investigate



6. Treasurer’s Report

The current balance is £1341.67


7. AOCB

It was noted that £30 had been spent on an additional flower tub


8. Date of Next Meeting

Tuesday 30th August 2011 at 7pm in Saline Community Centre



Saline Environmental Group

Minute of Meeting of 28.06.11, Saline Community Centre


1. Present

John Lyon (Chair) Donald Murdoch, Craig Mitchell, Joan Featherstone, Roger Featherstone, Jackie Kerr, Linda Moyes, Jim Hensman, David Chisholm.


2. Welcome

John Lyon welcomed members


3. Apologies

Adrienne Lyon


4. Minutes of Meeting of 31.05.11

Proposed by Jackie Kerr, seconded by Craig Mitchell


5. Matters Arising

  • Meeting with Scottish Coal re Cowstrandburn right of way has still to be arranged

  • Richard Lyon has agreed to speak at the AGM


6. Updates

  1. Standalane Path: awaiting confirmation of prices for gates from Jenny Crick

  2. Oakley Path: Still trying to contact Mr Templeton. David Chisholm will try to contact him (Note: contact has now been made)

  3. Community Garden: Saline Church Session have indicated that no response is anticipated soon from the Church of Scotland. As the delay is affecting the group’s potential to obtain new funding for other projects, it was agreed that contact should be made with Fife environment Trust5 and Leader

  4. Communities Future: The event was successful and the report to the Coalfields Regeneration Trust will be submitted this week. David Chisholm offered to obtain a price for graphics work for the presentation report, which was accepted

  5. Glen Entrance: Contact has been made with Gareth Turner of the Horticultural Society and it is anticipated that work will start when weedkillers have taken effect



6. Treasurer’s Report

£7276.89 has been paid and £200 since the last report was presented. This leaves a balance of £1747.78


7. AOCB

None


8. Date of Next Meeting

Tuesday 26th July 2011 at 7pm in Saline Community Centre


Saline Environmental Group

Minute of Meeting of 31.05.11, Saline Community Centre


1. Present

John Lyon (Chair) Adrienne Lyon, Donald Murdoch, Craig Mitchell, Catherine Cousar, Liz Puller, Joan Featherstone, Libby Hughes, Richard Smith, Jackie Kerr, Linda Moyes. Andy Easton, Jenny Crick


2. Welcome

John Lyon welcomed new members


3. Apologies

Jim Hensman, Jan Williams, David Chisholm


4. Minutes of Meeting of 26.04 .11

Proposed by Joan Featherstone, seconded by Catherine Cousar


5. Matters Arising

Meeting with Scottish Coal re Cowstrandburn right of way was cancelled. A revised date has yet to be agreed


5. Updates

  • Standalane Path: Jenny Crick confirmed the position regards the gates and outlined the cross-site track that would be created as part of planting works. It is anticipated that gates will be installed in July or August. Previous financial commitments from this group are still available

  • Oakley Path: Donald Murdoch and Andy Easton have walked an alternative route to Kinneddar Park and Oakley. This is slightly longer but more attractive for users. Discussions with landowners are now essential. Discussions have taken place with Transportation about appointing Andy Easton to work up proposals for improved links to the cycle path from Saline, Oakley/Comrie and Blairhall. It is anticipated that Fife Council will contribute £1,000 towards fees and Blairhall Community Association and the West Fife Villages Community Planning Group have been asked to contribute. It was agreed that this group would contribute £500

  • Forestry Commission: Jenny Crick outlined progress with the Forestry Commission’s proposals

  • Community Garden: Still awaiting feedback from Church of Scotland re lease. If this is not received by the next meeting, a decision on whether to proceed will be required

  • Communities Future: members were reminded of the community open day



6. Treasurer’s Report

The books have been audited. The current balance is £8824.67 from which the insurance renewal will be paid


7. AOCB

  • The agm will be on 25.10.11 It was agreed that Richard Lyon be asked to give a presentation on energy

  • Catherine Cousar indicated that the Horticultural Society was prepared to improve the entrance to Saline Glen but needed money for materials. It was agreed that £500 could be contributed


8. Date of Next Meeting

Tuesday 28th June 2011 at 7pm in Saline Community Centre


Saline Environmental Group

Minute of Meeting of 26.04.11, Saline Community Centre


1. Present

John Lyon (Chair) Adrienne Lyon, David Chisholm, Donald Murdoch, Craig Mitchell, Catherine Cousar, Liz Puller, Joan Featherstone, Jim Hensman

2. Apologies

None


3. Minutes of Meeting of 29.03 .11

Proposed by Jim Hensman, seconded by Joan Featherstone


4. Matters Arising

A letter has been sent to Scottish Coal about the Cowstrandburn to Kinneddar Park right of way


5. Updates

  • Standalane Path: The site visit with Jenny Crick and Alison Irvine was productive but there are still problems with the gates

  • Oakley Path: The possibility of an alternative route is being examined to reduce costs and take account of Forestry Commission ownership. This involves use of woodland that appears to belong to Mr Templeton. The Forestry Commission would be interested in acquisition

  • Forestry Commission: the consultation event appears to have gone well and members took the opportunity to participate

  • Community Garden: Still awaiting feedback from Church of Scotland re lease. Stewart Miller is chasing up

  • Communities Future: Work is now proceeding and Lesley Campbell will be meeting some members on 27th April



6. Treasurer’s Report

The books are currently being audited. £250 has been paid to Living Solutions for planters. The current balance is £9420. Of this £7,00 is required for the Communities Future exercise


7. AOCB

  1. There is a need to agree a date for the agm

  2. David Chisholm reported on the seminar on entrepreneurship in Glenrothes

Donald Murdoch advised on Fife Council’s Access Forum seminar to be held on 9th June. Anyone interested in attending should contact him


8. Date of Next Meeting

Tuesday 31st May 2011 at 7pm in Saline Community Centre



Saline Environmental Group

Minute of Meeting of 29.03.11, Saline Community Centre


1. Present

David Chisholm (chair), Donald Murdoch, Craig Mitchell, Lucy Mitchell, Alec Mitchell, Catherine Cousar, Jan Owen, Joan Featherstone, Jim Hensman

2. Apologies

John and Adrienne Lyon, Liz Puller



3. Minutes of Meeting of 26.10 .10

Proposed by Catherine Cousar, seconded by Craig Mitchell


4. Matters Arising

none


5. Revised Constitution

Adopted


6. Updates

  • Standalane Path: A site visit with Jenny Crick and Alison Irvine has been arranged. Meet at Oakley Road at 7pm on 5th April

  • Oakley Path: Bid to Climate Challenge Fund has been knocked back.

  • Forestry Commission: A consultation event has been arranged for 19th April and is being widely advertised

  • Community Garden: Still awaiting feedback from Church of Scotland re lease

  • Communities Future: Work is now proceeding and Lesley Campbell will be consulting on environmental issues



6. Treasurer’s Report

To be reported at next meeting


7. AOCB

  1. Concern was expressed about blockage of the right of way from Cowstrandburn to Kinneddar Park. Scottish Coal will be contacted for clarification

  2. David Chisholm advised of a seminar on entrepreneurship in Glenrothes

  3. David Chisholm advised of discussion with the owners of land at Rhynd and potential for the group to become involved. It was agreed that David should set up a meeting

8. Date of Next Meeting

Tuesday 26th April 2011 at 7pm in Saline Community Centre



Saline Environmental Group
Minute of Meeting of 27.04.10 at Saline Community Centre

1. Present
John Lyon (chair) Donald Murdoch, David Chisholm. Jan Owen, Jean Barbour, Catherine Cousan, Liz Pullen, John Gordon, Danielle McCaulay

2. Apologies
Adrienne Lyon, Ann Black

3. Updates
Members were advised of progress on the Standalane path, Oakley path and Forestry Commission. Problems with a farmer on the Standalane path are a concern that will hopefully be resolved when the site is acquired by the Forestry Commission. Problems for Kinnedar Park residents in accessing services were noted, which emphasizes the need for the proposed path. It was felt that it is essential that Mr. D Templeton is contacted re various issues.

4. Commitments
• Matters referred to in Ashley Birrel’s (Fife Environment Trust) letter to Peter Hart need to be addressed to permit an application for funding in December
• Glen boards need to be progressed. Ben Geyer to be contacted re possible design work
• The sale by the Harts was noted. Acquisition by the group or community council is not considered appropriate but the Forestry Commission has been asked to consider this

5. Funding
• John Lyon reported on his attendance at a SRDP seminar. It was felt that there are various options available to the group
• The cost of short-term works to the Standalane path is estimated at £500 plus fees. It is likely that the community council will contribute and it was agreed that the group would meet the balance
• It was agreed that Andy Easton should be appointed to provide professional services on path works

6. Treasurer’s Report
The Account Books have been audited and certified as being in order. The current balance is £5911 plus £1,000 promised by the Colton Trust towards the Glen boards

7. AOCB
• It was noted that the treasurer had been meeting expenses from her own pocket for some time. It was agreed that future expenses must be met by the group and that the treasurer be awarded £100 to cover outstanding expenses.
• It was agreed that the group should join BTCV

8. Date of Next Meeting
Tuesday 25th May 2010 at 7pm in Saline Community Centre


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