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DRAFT FOR ACCURACY TO COMMUNITY COUNCIL

CHARLESTOWN, LIMEKILNS AND PATTIESMUIR COMMUNITY COUNCIL

MINUTES OF INAUGURAL MEETING

HELD AT THE GELLET HALL 25th NOVEMBER 2014


Present: Peter Curry Sue Hamilton, Lesley Scott, Callum MacInnes, Alex Hill, Mandy Littlewood, Kat Tebbutt, Annie Nally, Tommy Cuthbert, Trevor Jones, Rob Thompson


In attendance: Cllrs Callaghan and Stewart, Ian Cruikshanks, Christine Forrester, Fiona Thompson, Evelyn Jones, Malcolm Hamilton, Christine Donnelly, Catharine Idle,


  1. Apologies: Geoff Cartwright, Suze Anderson, Tom Leatherland, DoreenKempsell

  2. Welcome

Cllr Callaghan took the Chair and welcomed everyone, particularly newly-elected Community Councillors, to the inaugural meeting of the new Community Council. She proceeded to the election of a Chairman.

  1. Appointment of Chairman

Peter Curry.  Proposed: Sue Hamilton,  Seconded: Kat Tebbutt.

Alex Hill.  Proposed: Rob Thompson. When asked if he wished to be nominated, Alex Hill said he did not.  Peter Curry, being the only nomination, the meeting agreed that Peter Curry be appointed Chairman. Peter Curry took the Chair.


  1. Appointment of Vice Chairman

Alex Hill. Proposed: Peter Curry, Seconded Callum MacInnes. This being the only nomination, the meeting agreed that Alex Hill be appointed Vice Chairman


  1. Appointment of Secretary

Sue Hamilton. Proposed Peter Curry, seconded Alex Hill. This being the only nomination, the meeting agreed that Sue Hamilton be appointed Secretary


  1. Appointment of Treasurer

Suze Anderson. Proposed: Sue Hamilton, seconded Lesley Scott. This being the only nomination, the meeting agreed that Suze Anderson be appointed Treasurer.


  1. Information for Members

The Secretary gave a presentation on the purpose, relationships, and funding of the Community Council. Secretary agreed to attach this to the minute of the meeting. Chairman emphasized that the Community Council generally works by consensus and does not vote on everything. Our business is to represent all the views of the community – which may be divergent – and express an agreed way forward if possible!


  1. Co-option of Members.

Tom Scott had stood down from his co-opted role in representing the issues of concern to residents of Grange Road. Secretary will write him a formal note of thanks. Suze Anderson was co-opted to continue in the role Treasurer. Iain Cruikshanks is happy to continue as a representative of local businesses.


Before proceeding to ordinary business, the Chairman noted the full agenda and reminded the meeting that meetings were intended to last for around 90 minutes. He proposed that, after 120 minutes, he would ask if it was the will of the meeting to continue beyond this time.


  1. Minutes of the meeting of 28th October 2014

After insertion of an item about the commencement of the Estate shooting season, the minutes were agreed as a true record. Proposed Alex Hill, Seconded Lesley Scott

  1. Matters Arising from Meeting of 28th October 2014

  1. Junction with A985. Secretary has been informed by Amey that the promised resurfacing and road marking work will be carried out on the nights of 4th and 5th December.

  2. Parking at The Cairns. Cllr Callaghan had site meeting with Tam Mowat of Fife Council, and a site meeting with the Secretary this morning. Cllr Callaghan will seek funding for this at the next Ward 1 meeting.

  3. Bus service changes. Annie has collected around 300 signatures on the petition which she will present to Fife Council officers who deal with bus services. Secretary understands that the service requested would need to be provided by Stagecoach. The number 6 service has survived because it doubles as the school bus – which is why there are gaps in the timetable, morning and afternoon, and also why it is a double decker (which, surprisingly, have similar fuel ‘economy’ to single deckers). The consultation in the summer had been about the existing Fife Council subsidised services, rather than about new routes.

  4. Lime Centre Yard project. Secretary had been told by Ros Artis that the Lime Centre is no longer progressing the ‘Yard’ project at this time.

  5. Request for ramps for skate park etc. Mandy still investigating costs. Need to involve the young folk in development of ideas. She is considering the training of the Explorers as ‘peer researchers’ who could gain a better understanding of the needs and wants of the age group(s). Age group considerations are important to address potential conflict

  6. Boundary at Douglas Bank Cemetery. No report back from Bereavement Services, but Rob says trimmed brushwood has been ‘woven’ into the gaps in the hedge, giving it a generally tidier appearance.

  7. Gates at Telephone Exchange. There had been a site visit today and a decision to renew the gates.

  8. Mobile Post Office consultation. Secretary had written about our concerns with security of the vehicle, and the possible impact on Charlestown Post Office. Post Office had replied that security of the vehicles is well-managed, and that there is likely to be little impact on Charlestown PO.

  9. Charlestown street lighting. West Area Planning Committee is to make a site visit tomorrow before their meeting.

  10. Secretary had attended ‘Unearthed’, a film about the effects of unconventional gas operations. It provided much food for thought.


  1. Police Report. No contact or report from Police.


  1. Broomhall Estate

Kathleen Kirkpatrick will organise a meeting with Pattiesmuir residents.


  1. FifePLAN consultation ends 8th December. Secretary emphasized that the Local Plan determines development for the next n years. Rob said there is probably a ‘hook’ upon which to hang a comment about Fracking. Secretary thanked him for the observation and asked if he could find the reference to the possible ‘hook’.


  1. Treasurer's Report

  1. Following payments for Secretary’s expenses and Remembrance Day wreath, balances are as follows: BoS £993.09; Nationwide account £1712.87; RFRD £1072.24.

  2. Rob Thompson asked about the rules for receiving the annual grant from Fife Council. In order to receive it, we have to have spent at least 80% of the previous year’s grant. The Community Council holds modest accumulated funds. Such funds were available last year to contribute to the cost of the community noticeboards.


  1. Secretary's Report.

  1. Fibre broadband has come to the villages earlier than expected. Service providers will provide detailed information as to how you can be connected.

  2. On Site’, a firm of contractors are carrying out a comprehensive sewer survey in the villages. One of the pumping stations apparently had so much hydrogen sulphide that they couldn’t complete the work at that location. Secretary had phoned Scottish Water for more information, but they had none. Apparently ‘On Site’ are contractors to contractors to Scottish Water!

  3. Secretary has reported the ‘keep left’ bollard which has gone missing from the Limekilns junction.

  4. Information received from Paths for All about training courses they are running next year. Catharine Idle, who lives in Charlestown and works for Paths for All explained that the training was in ground survey and path construction.


  1. Councillors

  1. Cllr Callaghan had given a talk at the College Club about the work of a Councillor.

  2. Cllr Stewart had, recently, been stuck behind a long vehicle which was stuck on Merryhill Bridge, having followed SatNav instructions. Others had experienced similar events. Secretary will ask if we can have signs which restrict access for vehicles above a certain size.

  3. There is to be a consultation on Fife Council’s draft budget. Choices have to be made about budget cuts. Cllr Callaghan provided a paper copy of the Draft Budget.

  4. There are also plans afoot to reduce the length of teaching contact time for all pupils in Fife. (Post meeting note: Secretary has tried to find out more: During the second half of November, there were just 8 meetings in the whole of Fife to inform parents what is being considered. For Woodmill, St Columba’s, Dunfermline High, Queen Anne, and Inverkeithing High, there were just two possible meetings, on the 20th and 27th November (both Thursday). There is no formal consultation period notified on the Fife Direct web site.) There are also plans to close more school kitchens.

  5. Cllr Stewart said several West Fife Villages had not yet re-established Community Councils, following recent elections. The Community Council Forum is therefore currently under strength. Tommy Cuthbert volunteered to attend meetings on our behalf which was agreed. It would be the appropriate forum for discussion of wider issues such as Unconventional Gas extraction.


  1. Discussion of proposal (Rob Thompson)

  1. Rob Thompson presented two written proposals to the Community Council. These had been emailed to members yesterday and today.

  2. One arose from his request, at the last meeting, for funding to repair the path on the east side of the War Memorial. The proposal presented had two elements – drainage on the west side and enhancing the area surrounding the War Memorial. A number of questions were put about the need for the works, the various parties named as contributing materials and labour, how ten tonnes of shale would be held on the sloping ground, whose decision it would be as to what was appropriate hard landscaping around the War Memorial. The proposal was that the Community Council might contribute the cost of grass seed @£62 and storm drain channel @£60. There was a further suggestion that the Community Council might fund ‘Spanish White chips’ @£180. (Secretary stated that she, personally, would be totally opposed to the latter, as being out of keeping with the informality of the site).

  3. Chairman thanked Rob for his proposal. He stated that a number of parties had an interest in the War Memorial, not least Fife Council, who have a statutory duty to maintain it, the landowner, as well as the whole population of the villages, who hold the site in great affection as well as others such as the British Legion. Everyone needs to feel comfortable with any changes that are made. It seems that an Action Group reporting to the Community Council might be the best vehicle for delivering any work here.

  4. Catharine Idle volunteered to meet Rob on site tomorrow. She has experience of distinguishing between drainage and maintenance on the one hand, and reconstruction on the other. She will produce a report for the Community Council after this meeting. She was thanked by the Chairman.

  5. Malcolm Hamilton said that two different individuals had told him how much they appreciated the recent provision of the path and handrail to the west side when they attended the Remembrance commemoration.

  6. The second proposal which Rob presented was an application to Beechgrove Community Gardens which needed to be submitted two days hence. It was a proposal for three community mini-orchards at several locations, and the creation of allotments on vacant land between Wellheads and Upper Wellheads. It also included proposals for decorative planting at the War Memorial. All the pieces of land are in the ownership of Broomhall Estate. He had spoken to various folk in different organisations and suggested that there was a groundswell of people in the villages who supported the proposal. Some could not understand why there was a rush to submit an application this year. Concerns were expressed about the planting of garden plants at the War memorial, since it is already something of a wild flower meadow in May and June after the informal scatter of daffodils has died down. Catharine suggested an organisation called ‘Grow Wild’ as an excellent source of advice for communities seeking to increase biodiversity by growing wild flowers

  7. In the Chairman’s summing up of a long discussion, he suggested that the mini-orchards and allotments were relatively non-controversial, but that inclusion of the War Memorial makes the application much more complex.

  8. Rob will redraft the application taking the foregoing discussion into account. The application will be in his name, under the umbrella of the Floral Displays Group.



Date of Next Meeting: Tuesday 27th January 2015 at the Gellet Hall.

 


 

CHARLESTOWN, LIMEKILNS AND PATTIESMUIR COMMUNITY COUNCIL

MINUTES OF MEETING HELD AT PATTIESMUIR 30.09.2014


Present: Peter Curry Sue Hamilton, Lesley Scott, Callum MacInnes


In attendance: Kathleen Kilpatrick, Cllr Callaghan, Doreen Kempsell, Colin and Betty Craig, Tom Leatherland, Rob and Fiona Thompson, Anne Steele, Myra Pater,
Mike Brockie, Nan Whetton, Robin Gray, David Crabb, Evelyn and Trevor Jones.


Apologies: Alex Hill, Kat Tebbutt, Annie Nally, Mandy Littlewood, Geoff Cartwright,

Fiona Davies, Suze Anderson, Elain MacLachlan.


  1. Minutes of the meeting of 26th August 2014

After deletion of the last two sentences in item 4d, these were agreed as a true record. Proposed Lesley, Seconded Alice.

  1. Matters Arising from Meeting of 26th August 2014

  1. Junction with A985. It transpires that Gordon Boyd transferred from BEAR to Amey, so there would appear to be little reason for delay in implementing the variable sign measures. Secretary had asked that the bushes on the north side of the road between Limekilns and Pattiesmuir be removed. Amey’s initial reaction is that we still have 160m of visibility.

  2. Parking at The Cairns. Cllr Callaghan had a site meeting with Callum and the Secretary. Cllr Callaghan is arranging a meeting with Housing.

  3. Garage at Brucehaven Crescent. Situation seems to be resolved to the satisfaction of all concerned

  4. Trip hazard at Capernaum Court. Nothing done

  5. Bus service changes. Annie had had further correspondence on the matter of east-west services. It was pointed out that 71 – the only existing east-west service had been reduced through lack of use.

  6. Litter Bin requests. Secretary had sent Tam Mowat photos of the mess made by seagulls when they rake through the open-topped bins on the Promenade, and requested request ‘side slot’ bins at these locations as well as a new bin to replace the rusty one at Charlestown Green.

  7. Lime Centre Yard project. Secretary awaits information about the form of words required in the letter of support.

  8. Request for ramps for stunts etc. Mandy Littlewood’s husband has a particular interest in skateboard facilities and he and a colleague are happy to assess sites in and around the villages. Such facilities can be noisy so are not appropriate near houses. Rosyth has a big new facility. High Valleyfield has a smaller one under construction.

  9. Boundary at Douglas Bank Cemetery. Secretary has spoken to Liz Murphy of Bereavement Services, who is investigating.

  10. Gates at Telephone Exchange. These will be painted or removed altogether.

  11. Fence contractor removed his advertising sign promptly.


  1. Police Report.

  1. Secretary and Lesley had attended the recent Community Engagement Meeting, where the main topic had been issues concerning speeding by cyclists in the village. Cyclists are neither required to have insurance or speedometers on their bikes. PC Harvey, himself a keen cyclist, will contact the local cycle clubs and ask them to remind their members of the dangers of speed in village areas.


  1. Broomhall Estate

  1. Giant Hogweed. Plants are now dying off. New growth will need spraying in the spring

  2. Knotweed. Only one of the two patches has been sprayed. There is another larger patch beyond the East Lodge on the south side of the drive. Kathleen will investigate.

  3. Pattiesmuir. Estate will organise a meeting with Pattiesmuir residents.

  4. The Estate reports a problem with cars parked at the entrance to Broomhall.

  5. Estate delighted with progress being made with the Sutlery building.


  1. Planning

  1. Fifeplan update. The Proposed Plan has been published. There will be a 6 week period of consultation from the end of October. It contains a proposal for a small development behind the Sutlery.

  2. Hilton Development. The triangle of ground between Brankholm Brae and the footpath is part of the development site. It is likely that it will be for some sort of commercial development such as a restaurant. It will be subject to a separate planning application. The arrows marked on the road for access to this site are misleading.

  3. Spinneys, Church Street. (Chairman, as owner of one of the adjacent properties, disclosed an interest.) Work on the house at this address has been carried out according to the approved planning permission. Massive digging has now been carried out, removing what were, effectively, retaining earthworks, and leading to slippage of soil from the gardens of adjacent properties which are at a higher level, as well as to exposure of the foundations of the high wall bordering Church Street. Planning and Building Control are investigating.


  1. War Memorial Access Project.

  1. Funding has been secured. Brian Siddell will fit the job in during October.

  2. Rob Thompson volunteered to recruit a squad to tidy up the site. Community Council can make a contribution to the cost of materials.


  1. Proposed new street lighting columns

  1. This was going to have been considered by the West Area planning committee on 1st October, but is not on the published agenda.

  2. The Community Council maintains its opposition to this scheme.

  3. Missing lamp post, Red Row. New owner of No 21 has observed how dark it is at that corner. An earlier lamp post was lost when the wall collapsed during the installation of a sewer along the beach in 1991. Transportation say they will only replace on a like for like basis and that they have no record of the existence of this lamp post.


  1. Other conservation area issues.

  1. Pierhead House. Still no planning application lodged.

  2. 5 Halkett’s Hall. Concerns have been raised by several villagers about the fence erected across the footway. Secretary will write to householder suggesting that it was advisable to seek planning permission.

  3. Satellite Dish, South Row. A new dish has been erected in the middle of a white wall. Satellite dishes must be sensitively sited in conservation areas.


  1. Treasurer's Report

No change from last month


  1. Community Council Elections

Secretary has today received the paperwork relating to Community Council Elections. These are held every four years. All existing members stand down and are eligible to stand again. Anyone living in the villages and on the electoral roll can stand for election. To date, there have never been enough nominations for an election to be required! Nomination papers can be down loaded at:

http://www.fifedirect.org.uk/publications/index.cfm?fuseaction=publication.pop&pubid=C1067AD6-CA74-1AFC-276DB4F017758572


  1. Secretary's Report.

  1. Children’s panel recruitment posters. Cllr Callaghan commented that self-employed people are welcomed to the panel, as they often have greater flexibility. They are paid for their time.

  2. Fife Council is organising a Welfare Reform information event at High Valleyfield on 5th October.

  3. Fife Coast and Countryside Trust newsletter

  4. Fife Council looking to update their list of groups who might be seeking funding information.

  5. Stickers on Royal Mail letterboxes. Stickers on letterboxes indicate a change of collection regime from 20th October. This is likely to be that collections will be made by delivery personnel when they have completed their delivery rounds.

  6. Letter received today about 6-week consultation starting today on new mobile Post Office service to be offered for Limekilns between 14.15 and 16.15 on Thursdays.

  7. Parking at Upper Wellheads. Secretary had been contacted by a resident who has encountered problems with his access being blocked.


  1. Councillor Callaghan

Cllr Callaghan has been addressing problems associated with delays in Blue Badge allocation. She has also raised concerns about the working of the Community Alarms system when a user is admitted to hospital without the family being informed


  1. AOCB

  1. A Radio 4 programme today about Fracking had mentioned Fife.

  2. Access to the beach at the eastern end of the gabions is deteriorating.

  3. Sewage on Capernaum Pier. The problem persists, with raw sewage often leaking onto the pier. Cruising club will compile a diary of events. Community council will take it up with Scottish Water and SEPA.

  4. Craning out happens next weekend


Date of Next Meeting: Tuesday 28th October 2014 at the Gellet Hall.

 


 

CHARLESTOWN, LIMEKILNS AND PATTIESMUIR COMMUNITY COUNCIL

MINUTES OF MEETING HELD AT THE GELLET HALL 26.08.2014


Present: Sue Hamilton, Alex Hill, Kat Tebbutt, Lesley Scott, Annie Nally, Mandy Littlewood, Geoff Cartwright,


In attendance: Kathleen Kilpatrick, Cllr Callaghan, Cllr Stewart, Doreen Kempsell, Bill and Gaye McKissock, Colin and Betty Craig, Linda MacPhee, Tom Leatherland, Julian Smith, Rob and Fiona Thompson, Tony Orton,


Apologies: Fiona Davies, Callum MacInnes, Tom Scott, Suze Anderson, Peter Curry (but present for items 6,7,8!),


  1. Minutes of the meeting of 24th June 2014

These were agreed as a true record. Proposed Lesley, Seconded Kat.

  1. Matters Arising from Meeting of 24th June 2014

  1. CC recruitment. Welcome to Mandy Littlewood today! CC had a presence at Gala Day. Secretary has rationalized her distribution lists so that the emails she receives can be more widely circulated.

  2. Junction with A985. A good meeting was held in early July with George Henry and Marco Bardelli from Transport Scotland and Gordon Boyd from BEAR. It was attended by the Secretary, Malcolm Hamilton, and Karen Hart. As a first measure, the plan is to have the variable signs on the main road activated by stationary traffic at our junction, and alert drivers on the main road to joining traffic. Unfortunately, the whole of the highway management has now been significantly disrupted by the transfer of the contract from BEAR to Amey on August 15th! Secretary has asked Marco to push Amey into action. Bushy growth of trees on the north side of the road between Limekilns and Pattiesmuir hinders our sight line to the east. Secretary has asked that his be addressed.

  3. Parking at The Cairns. No progress. Cllr Callaghan asked for a site meeting with the Secretary.

  4. Garage at Brucehaven Crescent. Chris Moodie of Fife Council seems to have got this sorted by offering each property bordering on the council-owned patch the chance to buy the land they need.

  5. Trip hazard at Capernaum Court. No progress. Cllr Stewart will follow up with John McQueen.

  6. Bus service changes. The consultation on the use of the subsidised 71 and 86 bus services ran until 27th July. There was an excellent response from this community. The 71 has been reduced to one journey in each direction at the beginning and end of the day (so it’s ‘tough’ if it does not fit your working hours.) Then, with no apparent warning, Stagecoach made major changes to their services – changing the number of our service from 76 to 6 and removing the onward service to Wellwood (hitherto used by pupils electing to go to Queen Anne High School). They seem to have delivered new timetables to most houses in the villages.

  7. Litter Bin request at Red Row. A bin was about to be installed, but the process was halted after objection from another resident. We will ask residents to monitor the litter situation at this location. There is an ongoing issue about the mess seagulls make when they rake through the open-topped bins on the Promenade. We should request ‘side slot’ bins at these locations. We also need a new bin to replace the rusty one at Charlestown Green.

  8. Rosyth Churchyard. A new pedestrian gate has been installed. Secretary had thanked Bereavement Services for their attention to this matter, and to the grass-cutting at the graveyard this season. There is now a Commonwealth War Graves notice on the gate. There are two graves there of casualties from WW1 – an Admiral Tower and a Private Wylie.

  9. Lime Centre Yard project. Secretary has yet to write a letter of support.

  10. Hilton Road skid spot. The corner has been surfaced with more grippy material (at the same time as other resurfacing was carried out, apparently in anticipation of the Queen’s visit!).

  11. Wind turbine survey. Tom Scott had returned the survey questionnaire but had heard nothing further.


  1. Police Report.

  1. There was no report from the Police.

  2. Small World. Ali MacKerron, former chairman of the Community Council, now living in Perth, Australia, reports that he had recently met our one-time diligent community policeman, Ryan Hutchison, at a barbecue there!


  1. Broomhall Estate

  1. Giant Hogweed. Spraying by the Estate is still ongoing.

  2. Knotweed. Kathleen will check what has been / is being done about the two patches near the East Lodge.

  3. License application for felling operations. The plan is to fell small groups of old trees to allow replacement planting. The existing application is for just one small site on the main bank of trees.

  4. New fence at War Memorial. This substantial new fence has been vandalised.

  5. Pattiesmuir. Secretary once again, re-iterated that residents are still looking to have a meeting with the Estate, so that views and concerns can be aired and discussed openly. Geoff Cartwright endorsed this opinion on behalf of the residents of Pattiesmuir. It is puzzling why the Factor is so resistant to such a meeting. It is common experience that, when communities are included in early opportunities for discussion of proposals, their hostility to any development is reduced!

  6. Overnight caravan at the ‘turning circle’. A towed caravan had been there for one night and caused no disturbance or litter. There would be concern if there were more than one caravan or one staying for more than one night, in which case the Estate would be alerted..


  1. War Memorial Access Project.

Secretary had completed an application to Fife Environment Trust for 90% of the cost of £6960 (Brian Siddell’s quote). It is hoped the remainder will come from the Locality Budget. Secretary had indicated in the application that the Community Council’s contribution would be in financing some tidying up of the area around the war memorial itself. Meeting noted how much tidier the area looks thanks to the recent strim by Fife Council.


  1. Proposed new street lighting columns

  1. The number of objections had been such that the application will have to be considered by the West Area planning committee.

  2. Cllr Callaghan had spoken to the planning officer about the policy. Not clear what support for the residents’ and the Community Council’s case will be forthcoming.


  1. Other conservation area applications.

  1. 42 Main Street. Application for substantial alterations. No concerns.

  2. Pierhead House. No planning application has yet been lodged. Work appears to have stopped.

  3. 5 Halkett’s Hall. Application for replacement windows and doors in uPVC. Unlikely to get planning permission. (Post meeting note: Secretary forgot to voice concerns raised by several villagers that a fence has been erected across the footway in front of the house.)


  1. Treasurer's Report

  1. Balances: BoS - £1059.09; DBS - £1712.87; RFRD - £1072.24.

  2. Fife Council grant of £596.322 received. APRS subscription of £25 paid


  1. Secretary's Report.

  1. Bus parked at Halketts Hall. In July, an unmarked white coach was regularly parked outside Seacliff during the day. This created difficulties for drivers exiting from Main Street. It transpired that the bus was carrying BAE workers from Clydeside to Rosyth and returning them in the evening. The driver had decided that Limekilns beach was the ideal place to spend the day, and didn’t respond well to requests to park his bus elsewhere. Secretary managed to make contact via BAE Systems HR department.

  2. Crombie School letter. Letter received telling us that Fife Council has made the decision to close Crombie school and transfer pupils to Limekilns. This is by no means a final decision, as it has to go to the scrutiny committee and may well be called in by the Scottish government. Tony Orton of Crombie suggested that Fife Council services needed to work more closely together – as, just as Education was suggesting closure of the school, the new Local Plan makes provision for 100 additional houses to be built at Crombie! It was pointed out that the per capita cost figures provided as justification for the closure have been shown to be exaggerated. In previous minutes the per capita cost per pupil was recorded as £16,438 per pupil. However, adjusting for the cost of one fewer teacher  and the loss of Grant Aided Expenditure, the per capita cost is reduced to £7,689.

  3. Commenting on planning applications. Letter received about the rationalisation of consultation periods for planning applications.

  4. Road repairs west of Charlestown. Hurrah! Road now properly resurfaced. However, it required a 3 day closure and disruption of the bus service. Pity they didn’t give us any notice. Councillors are told, but the affected communities are not.

  5. ‘On location’ at the lime kilns. Filming of the American television series ‘Outlander’ required a cave, and one of the kilns was deemed to be suitable. Secretary had received notice and was concerned that the residents were kept fully informed. The number of vehicles was such that traffic lights were required to allow West Harbour residents to get to and from their homes. Not really much economic benefit to the villages!

  6. Request for scooter facility. At the Gala, Secretary had been approached by Angus and his dad, asking whether we could have ramps installed in the park for him and his friends to ride their scooters. It turns out that what they have in mind is something like a full skate park. They had subsequently provided photographs of facilities at Saline, Oakley and Rosyth. There was a bit of a feeling that the installation of such facilities in Limekilns Park would alter the clientele it attracts. Perhaps we could find a site elsewhere. Facilities such as those at Saline and Rosyth cost in the region of £100,000. (Secretary noted that the recent re-launch of the ‘Awards for All’ scheme had prioritised awards to minority groups, which are listed as ‘mainly black and minority ethnic people (including refugees, asylum seekers and new migrants); disabled people; lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people; older people; carers’. Unlikely, therefore to be a source of funding for a skate park in Limekilns!

  7. Hall management seminar. Secretary had attended this excellent event led by Peter Ager of Fife Council. Its purpose is to ensure that those who manage halls are aware of their responsibilities in terms of Health and Safety and Fire.

  8. Boundary of Douglas Bank Cemetery. The boundary between the cemetery and the public path is rather unkempt, and ‘porous’ to dogs. Secretary had spoken to Bereavement Services and suggested that, if a new fence were to be erected, there might be a defined pedestrian exit at the north west corner.

  9. State of gates at Telephone Exchange. Gates are rusty and unsightly and almost never used. Secretary had spoken to a useful person who said their condition would be checked.

  10. Fence contractor’s advertising sign. Secretary had contacted the fencing contractors and suggested it is time their advertising sign was removed from the new fence at Upper Wellheads.

  11. Hilton development at Rosyth is ‘now taking applications from people who are interested in renting mid-market rental properties, built to a high standard but rented at very affordable rates’.


  1. Councillors

Councillor Stewart expressed her concern about the difficulties there seem to be in organizing a ‘homecare package’ with Fife Council’s Social Work department. She would like to hear from people who have such experience.


  1. AOCB

Availability of Community Council minutes. Alex will post them on Facebook when they have been approved for local circulation.


Date of Next Meeting: Tuesday 30th September 2014 at the College, Pattiesmuir.


 

CHARLESTOWN, LIMEKILNS AND PATTIESMUIR COMMUNITY COUNCIL

MINUTES OF MEETING HELD AT THE GELLET HALL 24.06.2014


Present: Sue Hamilton, Alex Hill, Kat Tebbutt, Lesley Scott, Annie Nally, Fiona Davies, Callum MacInnes


In attendance: Charlie Reid Thomas, Doreen Kempsell, Bill McKissock, Gaye McKissock


Apologies: Peter Curry, Geoff Cartwright, Tom Scott, Mandy Littlewood, Katie Hay Cllr Callaghan, Cllr Stewart, Suze Anderson,


  1. Minutes of the meeting of 27th May 2014

These were agreed as a true record. Proposed Alex, Seconded Lesley.

  1. Matters Arising from Meeting of 27th May 2014

  1. CC recruitment. Mandy Littlewood and Katie Hay delighted to join but send their apologies tonight. As Community Council elections are coming up in the autumn, the CC should have promotion stall at Gala Day on 16th August (as we did a few years ago, when folk were entered into a raffle if they gave us their email address.)

  2. Junction with A985. Secretary had pressed for a date for the meeting with Babcock and others, but none was forthcoming. She has now requested a meeting to deal specifically with our issues. It will, when it happens, be with George Henry from Transport Scotland and Gordon Boyd from BEAR. It is important to include the situation at the Pattiesmuir junction.

  3. Parking at The Cairns. Secretary had a site meeting with the officer from Fife Council’s housing department. He said he had neither been asked about nor sanctioned the path across the grass, agreed it was nonsense that the money should have been spent in this way, but still said that funding towards resolving the parking problem could not be justified. There was a glimmer of response when secretary suggested the CC might make a small contribution.

  4. Garage at Brucehaven Crescent. Councillor Callaghan’s meeting with the officer doesn’t seem to have brought us any closer to a resolution of this issue

  5. Giant Hogweed. Spraying by the Estate is still ongoing, weather permitting. The bad patch by the old foundry has been addressed. There is a plant by the Sailing Club slipway on Capernaum Pier.

  6. Trip hazard at Capernaum Court. Fife Council’s Housing and Assets departments both deny that this land is in Fife Council’s ownership, although the Land Registry say that, in the absence of another named owner, it probably is Fife Council’s. One of the residents has helpfully offered to kill the tree stump and to lift and relay the offending slabs.

  7. Beach clean. Thanks Kat for organizing this (to coincide with a national clean-up effort). Turnout had been rather disappointing due to clashes with other events. A group of cadets from Rosyth had contributed their efforts to the event.


  1. Police Report. .

  1. There was no report from the Police.

  2. Kat reported that police had been checking speeds on the Prom on two occasions last week. We would be interested to know what they found.

  3. Royal visit. The sergeant from Rosyth had reassured Suze that residents of Hilton Farm Steadings would be allowed in and out by an officer at the scene.


  1. Broomhall Estate

  1. Knotweed. Callum had contacted the Estate about the clumps of Giant Knotweed near East Lodge. Charlie will check with Kathleen what is being done about it.

  2. Pattiesmuir. Secretary re-iterated that the residents are still looking to have a meeting with the Estate, so that views and concerns can be aired and discussed openly. It is puzzling why the Factor is so resistant to such a meeting. Secretary pointed out that the Fifeplan, the next iteration of the local development plan, is nearing its final version. This could be the last moment for many years to alter the designation of the ‘piggery’ or to tweak the shape of the village envelope to allow limited development without ruining the amenity of existing residents.

  3. The Foundry Cottage site will be put on the market shortly..


  1. War Memorial Access Project.

  1. Fife Council’s Clair Lovett eventually came up with an estimated cost of £13,800 for a handrail and path. Fife Council’s Tom Mowatt of Parks and Countryside told the secretary that his men had neither the skills nor the time to complete the job before November. He suggested we approach a private contractor.

  2. Secretary had approached Brando Building Contractors who are working on Pierhead Cottage. He would do it for half the price. She is still awaiting a quote from Brian Siddell.

  3. The next step is to find funding. Secretary is in touch with the War memorials Trust and Fife Environment Trust.

  4. Funders want to know that, if a project is on private land, public access is assured. Factor stated that the Estate would write a ’letter of comfort’ to whom it may concern, assuring public access to the War Memorial in perpetuity.


  1. Lime Centre ‘Yard’ project.

  1. Heritage Lottery have invited a Stage 1 application for the project. 

  2. They have split the project into 2 parts, a development phase (gathering costs, securing partnership funding, having a programme of activities and appointing an Education Officer) and a delivery phase (building The Yard and continuing with programme of activities and appointing a Marketing Officer).  

  3.  The Lime Centre is looking for a letter of support from the Community Council. We are happy to provide that.


  1. Bus Service Consultation

  1. The consultation on the use of the 71 and 86 bus services runs until 27th July. These services are subsidised by Fife Council.

  2. Community Council and individuals have done their best to ensure that all users of the services know about it and fill in the questionnaire


  1. Proposed new street lighting columns.

  1. Residents had received neighbour notification letters on Friday last week.

  2. It is not easy to find information about what is involved. Secretary will provide clearer information about what is proposed. Callum will post the information on Facebook.


  1. Treasurer's Report

  1. No change from last month


  1. Secretary's Report.

  1. Hilton Road skid spot. Fife Council is aware of the number of vehicles that come off the road at the bend near the 30mph sign. They are considering what can be done.

  2. Secretary had passed on a request for a litter bin beside the seats at the end of Red Row.

  3. The planting of annual flowers at the junction has not been a great success. First, they killed more grass than was subsequently rotavated. Then, just when the flowers were bursting into bloom, Fife Council operatives mowed them all down on one side of the road!

  4. Wind turbine survey. Tom Scott had received the survey questionnaire because of his proximity to the FMC turbine.


  1. Councillor Slot.

No councillor present. No communication from either during the month.


  1. AOCB

  1. The dog bin at Charlestown Green needs replaced.

  2. Toddlers/under threes. ‘Kilns Kids’ is being established and will operate from the Queen’s Hall.

  3. Michael Murray from Babcock had taken a walk along the beach at Brucehaven today. He told Doreen that the beach was being ‘calibrated’, this week or next week.

  4. Concern was expressed about overnight camper vans at the turning circle. The meeting did not consider it a problem, as long as it was one-off users and they didn’t leave litter or cause disturbance or obstruction. We would keep the situation under review.


Date of Next Meeting: Tuesday 26th August 2014 in the Gellet Hall.

 


CHARLESTOWN, LIMEKILNS AND PATTIESMUIR COMMUNITY COUNCIL

MINUTES OF MEETING HELD AT THE GELLET HALL 27.05.2014


Present: Sue Hamilton, Alex Hill, Peter Curry, Kat Tebbutt, Lesley Scott, Callum MacInnes


In attendance: Cllr Callaghan, Suze Anderson, Mike Brockie, Bill Gray, Fiona Davies, Rebecca


Apologies: Annie Nally


  1. Note of the meeting of 29th April 2014

No formal approval was possible.

  1. Matters Arising from Meeting of 29th April 2014

  1. CC recruitment. Fiona Davies joined at tonight’s AGM. We will also invite Mandy Littlewood and Katie Hay, who have also expressed interest.

  2. Junction with A985. Secretary had spoken to George Henry, traffic safety manager for Transport Scotland, who had been at the meeting in January. He said he had been shocked at how bad the situation was when they left the meeting at 5.15pm. He would arrange a meeting at the beginning of June with BEAR and with Babcock – where the consequences of the congestion are also severe. George said that technology – such as ‘static loops’ - is available to alert trunk road traffic to minor road traffic waiting to join, and everything and anything would be done to resolve the difficulties at our junction.

  3. Rosyth Graveyard. Temporary repairs have been made to the small pedestrian gate.

  4. Parking at The Cairns. Secretary has arranged a site meeting with an officer from Fife Council’s housing department next week.

  5. Garage at Brucehaven Crescent. Councillor Callaghan had brought a senior Fife Council officer to a site meeting. She believed the situation would be resolved by offering individuals the opportunity to purchase the pieces of land they require.

  6. Giant Hogweed. Spraying by the Estate is ongoing, weather permitting. There is a bad patch by the old foundry. The Estate was thanked for its attention to this matter.

  1. Police Report. Parked Range Rover.

  1. Sgt Neill’s report said there had been 13 calls to the Call Centre but no crimes recorded.

  2. The parking problem at South Loanhead has been addressed through removal of the skip from the driveway.

  3. Callum and Kat had attended the Police Engagement meeting. The parked Range Rover had been a major topic of conversation. PC Chandler said that, although no offence was being committed, he would speak to the owner – since so much concern about the hazard caused was still being raised.

  4. Thefts from floral displays and motor bikes on the cycle track were also raised.

  5. PC Chandler stated that speeding on the Prom will be monitored as a matter of urgency.


  1. Proposed new houses at Pattiesmuir

  1. Rebecca said that a meeting with residents would be arranged.

  2. Although the ‘piggery’ is outside the village envelope, there is an opportunity to alter designations in the new FifePlan development plan.


  1. Proposed new street lighting columns.

  1. Secretary had written an account of our community’s experience with street lighting column replacement in conservation areas, and sent it to anyone she thought might be involved! It had elicited a limited response. There is still an intention to put modern columns on Charlestown Green, although Fife still have to apply to themselves for planning permission.


  1. Fife Access Seminar

This will be on Weds 4th June from 9am to 1pm at St Brycedales in Kirkcaldy.


  1. Treasurer's Report

  1. Balances: BoS - £487.77; DBS - £1710.87; RFRD - £1072.14.

  2. Application form for annual grant can now be submitted.

  3. Dunfermline Building Society is being taken over by the Nationwide. A letter to this effect had been sent to Liz Hutchins (who has not been Treasurer for some 5 years). Suze will speak to DBS about their failure to record this alteration.


  1. Secretary's Report.

  1. Trip hazard at Capernaum Court. Secretary knew of four individuals who had tripped on a raised paving slab when delivering to the flats in Capernaum Court. The flats in question are owned by village residents but rented out. Secretary will enquire of Fife Council’s Housing department whether it retains ownership of the garden area and access to the flats.

  2. Paths for All’ are running free Path maintenance courses at Glenrothes and Oatridge. Secretary has details.

  3. Subsidised bus service consultation. Fife Council want to know more about the use and value of the 71 and 86 bus services. Survey forms are available at the Bus Station and Ferrytoll.

  4. Aircraft Carrier Naming Ceremony 4th July. Secretary had received an email today with a general message of discouragement to anyone thinking they could go along. It is not a public event. There will be significant disruption in the area. Army are responsible for site security internally and Police Scotland outside site boundary.

  5. Fife Council has a mobile exhibition of the First World War. Peter had seen it at an event. Kat will pass the information on to the Gala committee.


  1. Councillor Slot.

Nothing that has not already been discussed


  1. AOCB

None


Date of Next Meeting: Tuesday 24th June 2014 in the Gellet Hall.

 


 

CHARLESTOWN, LIMEKILNS AND PATTIESMUIR COMMUNITY COUNCIL

NOTE OF MEETING HELD AT THE GELLET HALL 29.04.2014


Present: Sue Hamilton, Alex Hill,


In attendance: Charlie Reid Thomas, Mike Brockie, Nan Whetton, Tom Leatherland,


Apologies: Peter Curry, Geoff Cartwright, Barbara MacKenzie, Kat Tebbutt, Sgt Jillian Neill, Cllr Kate Stuart, Cllr Callaghan.


The meeting was not quorate.


  1. Minutes of the meeting of 25th March 2014

No formal approval was possible.

  1. Matters Arising from Meeting of 25th March 2014

  1. CC recruitment. Tonight is perhaps an indication of the need for more members!

  2. Junction with A985. Traffic Scotland have yet to respond to the Secretary following the analysis of the results of the survey.in early April.

  3. Rosyth Graveyard. The small pedestrian gate is now also falling apart.

  4. Parking at The Cairns. Councillor Callaghan has apparently not followed it up.

  5. Garage at Brucehaven Crescent. Neither Councillor has yet been effective in achieving a resolution to the muddle over land ownership created by Fife Council.

  1. Police Report. Parked Range Rover.

  1. Sgt Neill’s report said there had been a number of calls to the Call Centre and one offence. Several of the calls related to the Range Rover which is regularly parked on Church Street opposite the junction with Sandilands and Brucehaven Road. Sgt Neill said that several of her officers had followed up these calls and deemed that no offence was being committed.

  2. While it may be the case that no offence is being committed, the Secretary had requested a site meeting with PC Harvey. She had demonstrated to him the reasons that residents find the parked vehicle to be a hazard to traffic turning right out of Sandilands/Brucehaven Road. It was further pointed out at the CC meeting how difficult it is to turn left out of the Old Orchard because the parked vehicle not only restricts visibility, but also and blocks the route to be taken out of the junction.

  3. All present at the meeting believed the Highway Code had something to say about parking near a junction. (Post meeting note: Indeed it does ‘Do not stop or park opposite or within 10 meters of a junction.’ It also says ‘Do not park facing against the traffic flow’.) Even if these are only advisory, these are two bits of advice that are being ignored.

  4. Parking problems previously reported do not appear to have been addressed.


  1. Proposed new houses at Pattiesmuir

  1. Pattiesmuir residents are disappointed that there has, to date, been no response from the Estate to their request for a meeting where all the issues and concerns could be raised. In the Secretary’s experience, such early meetings are of great benefit to all because they provide a non-threatening space in which the motivation and values of the various parties can emerge. The later in the process that such meetings are held, the more likely it is that positions and views will become entrenched and reduce the chance of mutual understanding.

  2. The Secretary asked if it was the case that the Estate was taking some time in proving ‘title’ to the land in question. Charlie Reid Thomas agreed that this was the main reason for delay, and apologized for not telling the residents that this was the case.

  3. CRT sought to confirm the name of the person in Pattiesmuir with whom he should correspond. It was confirmed that Geoff Cartwright is the elected Community Councillor for Pattiesmuir. It may be that Ms Davies requires to be copied into correspondence.


  1. Broomhall Estate. Other Issues.

  1. The state of the unmade road in Pattiesmuir is again a cause of serious concern. CRT suggested that nothing more would be done until houses are built. Residents find this unsatisfactory.

  2. The Core Path over Gallowridge has been re-routed round the north of the farm buildings, and to the north side of the plantation.

  3. There are to be major thinning works in the conifer plantations to the west of Broomhall involving a lot of chainsaw noise.

  4. Essential selective felling of ailing hardwoods is likely be carried out in February.

  5. The demolition work on the west wing at Broomhall is almost complete.

  6. Renovation work has started on the Sutlery building.

  7. Giant Hogweed on around Lyne Burn. CRT stated that spraying would be carried out and confirmed that this would extend to the path along the railway line.


  1. Proposed new street lighting columns.

  1. A planning application has been lodged for Red Row, but not yet for Charlestown Green.

  2. Secretary has been trying, but failing, to discover what Fife Council’s policy is with reference to street lighting in conservation areas. An apparently reasonable policy was quoted to her, but it was definitely not followed for Brucehaven Road and Church Street.

  3. John Anderson of Transportation is helpful, but as puzzled about policy as we are.


  1. The Yard Project. Scottish Lime Centre.

  1. The Lime Centre is in the process of submitting funding applications for the ‘Yard’ project, and wished the Community Council to discuss their ideas.

  2. The low attendance meant there was little discussion.


  1. Treasurer's Report

  1. Balances: BoS - £487.77; DBS - £1710.87; RFRD - £1072.14.

  2. Application form for annual grant prepared for submission

  3. Many thanks to Sam Burton for her examination of the accounts..


  1. Secretary's Report.

  1. Information received about ‘The Big Lunch’ on June 1st.

  2. APRS newsletter and notice of AGM

  3. Fife Advocacy Strategy launch event

  4. Third Sector conference 27th May.

  5. NHS seeking public representation on medicines reconciliation group.


  1. Councillor Slot.

Both councillors had personal commitments which took priority over attendance this evening.


  1. AOCB

Chairman had been contacted about football on the Green. Community Council advice on the issue is recorded in the minute of the meeting of May 2011.


Date of Next Meeting: Tuesday 27th May 2014 in the Gellet Hall. AGM at 7.30pm. Ordinary meeting at 7.50pm


 

CHARLESTOWN, LIMEKILNS AND PATTIESMUIR COMMUNITY COUNCIL

MINUTES OF MEETING HELD AT THE GELLET HALL 25.03.2014


Present: Peter Curry, Sue Hamilton, Lesley Scott, Alex Hill, Annie Nally, Kat Tebbutt, Callum MacInnes, Ian Cruikshanks,


In attendance:, Peter Hutchings, Margaret Hemmings, Myra Pater, Irene Ferguson, Anne Steele (Pattiesmuir residents), Cllr Callaghan, Moira Adams, Mike Brockie, John Haxton, Phil Whetton, Nan Whetton, Karen Grant, Rob Thompson, Fiona Thompson, Tom Leatherland, Doreen Kempsell, Arran Imrie, Barbara MacKenzie and Tom Bishop (Dunfermline Advocacy Initiative)


Apologies: Geoff Cartwright, Sgt Jillian Neill, Cllr Kate Stuart


  1. Minutes of the meeting of 25th February 2014

These were approved as a true record. Lesley proposed; Alex seconded.

  1. Matters Arising from Meeting of 25th February 2014

  1. CC recruitment. Secretary welcomed CC Callum MacInnes as an eighth member. There are still five vacancies!). Community Council elections will be held later this year. It would be great if we had enough volunteers to require an election to be held!

  2. Junction with A985. Bear’s analysis of the camera survey will be submitted to Traffic Scotland in early April.

  3. West Road resurfacing. This was done. Secretary had contacted Traffic Management to see whether the ‘cushions’ could be replaced by full width humps, but was told this would require a new Traffic Order and a long legal process

  4. Rosyth Graveyard. Bereavement Services have installed a beautiful replacement gate.

  5. Parking at The Cairns. The subject had not yet been raised at the last West Area committee. Councillor Callaghan will follow it up.

  6. Garage at Brucehaven Crescent. Councillor Stuart had met the affected residents. She is hopeful that a sensible solution will emerge.

  7. Beach Clean. This was held last Saturday. Thanks Kat for excellent organization and achieving such a good turnout, despite the absence of goodies from Greggs. There is to be another Beach Clean in June.

  1. Police Matters.

  1. Parking problems do not appear to have been addressed.

  2. Written report from Sgt Neill listed four reports: uncorroborated driving complaint on Dunfermline Road, dog bite in Mylneburn Gardens, theft in Upper Wellheads (enquiries on-going), sudden death in Charlestown.

  3. During patrols over the last few weeks Sgt Neill has personally attended at the Scout Hall and there hasn’t been anyone hanging about. (Things may change when the weather improves).


  1. Proposed new houses at Pattiesmuir

  1. Barbara Mackenzie reported on discussions from a meeting of Pattiesmuir residents held last Sunday.

  2. Serious concerns had been expressed about the substantial percentage increase in the number of dwellings in the village, and the consequent pressure on infrastructure.

  3. It is not only the fact that the road is not planned to ever be of adoptable standard. It is also the proposal for a densely packed cul-de-sac with no formal turning space and insufficient width for the safe passing of vehicles. Electricity overhead lines are vulnerable and under-capacity, there having been a number of Pattiesmuir-specific power cuts of late. The mains water pressure is also low. All sewage disposal is by septic tank, either individual or shared – the latter causing some difficulty between the different users.

  4. There has, to date, been no response from the Estate concerning issues raised at the last meeting and, in particular, no information about the relative density of current housing and that proposed in the development.  Kathleen agreed to take the new issues of power and water supply away for consideration.

  5. Residents made a formal request that Broomhall Estate arrange to meet with the residents of Pattiesmuir.


  1. Broomhall Estate

  1. Pothole at north east corner of Charlestown Green needs dealing with. It is a good time to inspect it now because it is not full of water and the depth and sharpness are evident.

  2. The state of the unmade road in Pattiesmuir is again a cause of serious concern.


  1. Dunfermline Advocacy Initiative

  1. Barbara Mackenzie thanked the Community Council for the opportunity for her and her colleague, Tom Bishop, to speak about the work of Dunfermline Advocacy Initiative.

  2. They provide ‘citizen advocacy’ for vulnerable people in the community. Friendships that develop between the clients and their volunteers can be short term or last for years, and they often change lives and prospects for individuals. No qualification is required of the volunteers who are CRB checked and who are provided with appropriate training.

  3. Alex Hill has been a citizen advocate for several months. He described how it worked for him and the client whom he befriends.

  4. Tom is working on a short term project linked to the imminent integration of Health and Social Care in Scotland. This scheme will see the personalization of the care package which vulnerable individuals receive. Tom’s work will involve supporting individuals in selecting and developing the care package which is right for them.


  1. Future of Crombie School

  1. Tony Orton, chairman of Crombie Residents’ Association had asked if he might address this Community Council. (It had been found that, in a small community such as Crombie, it had been difficult to maintain attendance of elected members at such a level that a Community Council there could function. The Community Council had now been replaced by the Residents’ Association, the focus of which, of late, has been the threatened closure of the school.)

  2. The consultation currently underway is on the proposal to close the school and transfer the pupils to Limekilns.

  3. The Residents’ Association, who are campaigning to keep the school open, have a day of action this Wednesday, on the day when Fife Council is hosting a drop-in event at the school. There is also to be a drop-in event at Limekilns school on Thursday of this week. (No-one present had been aware of seeing any overt publicity for this event.)

  4. There has been a suggestion from the Residents’ Association that, in order to keep Crombie open and make best use of the building, the Nursery might transfer to Crombie. A number of reasons were given why this would be unlikely to find favour with parents in Limekilns.

  5. Cllr Callaghan stated that a decision whether or not to close the school would always have to be made against the fact that it costs £15,000 per pupil to keep Crombie open, as against £4,000 per pupil if they were transferred to Limekilns.

  6. Mr Orton was thanked for addressing the Community Council.

  7. (After note, the Chair attended the consultation meeting with the education department in Limekilns School on the Thursday evening and it was noted that the residents of Crombie had proposed moving the nursery from Limekilns to Crombie and that, as a result, Fife Council will be considering and responding to this.)


  1. Arran Imrie, filming project.

Arran lives in Pattiesmuir, and is studying film production. For his student project he has chosen to make three short advertising films for the Sundial Café. He has carried out a lot of preparatory work and it has been suggested by his tutor that he should seek permission for this project. We can only say that we are delighted that he has chosen a local project but that we are not in a position to grant ‘permission’. As Google has demonstrated with its ‘Street View’, anyone can film in the public realm, as long as they do not invade privacy or use images of recognizable individuals without their permission. Secretary will write him a letter of support for his endeavours and wish him well.

  1. Proposed new street lighting columns in Charlestown

  1. Secretary had been contacted by John Anderson of Fife Council, who said that it is proposed to renew the lighting columns in the whole of upper Charlestown.

  2. This raises the serious issue of ‘modern’ versus ‘period’ design. Fife Council policy on this matter has never been consistent, and we have old and new side by side in Limekilns.

  3. The meeting agreed that, since Charlestown Green is such an important conservation area where householders have to conform to very strict guidelines as to what alterations are made to their property, the local authority should not be allowed to get away with using a modern cheaper alternative on the grounds of cost. Many householders would have been delighted to use modern cheaper alternatives on their own properties if that had been ‘allowed’.

  4. Secretary will write to Mr Anderson accordingly.


  1. Application for variation of liquor license at Forth Cruising Club.

The Cruising Club has applied for a variation in licensing hours, so that their modest social programme is not restricted by the necessity to terminate functions early. What is proposed is the standard licensing hours. The Community Council has no objection. Secretary will write to confirm this.


  1. Treasurer's Report

  1. Balances unchanged from last month: BoS - £487.77; DBS - £1710.29; RFRD - £1072.14

  2. End of year accounts have been prepared.

  3. Application form for annual grant has been received.


  1. Secretary's Report.

  1. Forth Bridges anniversary event organisers are looking for volunteers to help with the event. Contact volunteering@indigops.com

  2. Fife Council want to know if we want more drinking byelaw signs. No we don’t.

  3. Secretary had forwarded to the Gala Secretary an email offering wrestling as an entertainment event.

  4. Secretary had received an e-mail asking about placing a memorial bench on the Ballast bank. Kathleen will check with the Estate. Secretary will pass details to Fife Council.

  5. Road works at Halketts Hall this week are to do with undergrounding telephone cables.


  1. Councillor Slot.

Nothing beyond what has been discussed.


  1. AOCB

  1. Cruising Club ‘craning in’ will be on the weekend of 12th – 13th April. Access to Capernaum Pier will be restricted.

  2. The verge at the road junction has been cultivated by Fife Council in anticipation of the planting of annual flower seeds.

  3. Limekilns Pier. Russell Kelly, who was to take a lead on repairs, has been out of action for a variety of reasons.


Date of Next Meeting: Tuesday 29th April 2014 in the Gellet Hall

 

 

 


 

CHARLESTOWN, LIMEKILNS AND PATTIESMUIR COMMUNITY COUNCIL

MINUTES OF MEETING HELD AT THE GELLET HALL 25.03.2014


Present: Peter Curry, Sue Hamilton, Lesley Scott, Alex Hill, Annie Nally, Kat Tebbutt, Callum MacInnes, Ian Cruikshanks,


In attendance:, Peter Hutchings, Margaret Hemmings, Myra Pater, Irene Ferguson, Anne Steele (Pattiesmuir residents), Cllr Callaghan, Moira Adams, Mike Brockie, John Haxton, Phil Whetton, Nan Whetton, Karen Grant, Rob Thompson, Fiona Thompson, Tom Leatherland, Doreen Kempsell, Arran Imrie, Barbara MacKenzie and Tom Bishop (Dunfermline Advocacy Initiative)


Apologies: Geoff Cartwright, Sgt Jillian Neill, Cllr Kate Stuart


  1. Minutes of the meeting of 25th February 2014

These were approved as a true record. Lesley proposed; Alex seconded.

  1. Matters Arising from Meeting of 25th February 2014

  1. CC recruitment. Secretary welcomed CC Callum MacInnes as an eighth member. There are still five vacancies!). Community Council elections will be held later this year. It would be great if we had enough volunteers to require an election to be held!

  2. Junction with A985. Bear’s analysis of the camera survey will be submitted to Traffic Scotland in early April.

  3. West Road resurfacing. This was done. Secretary had contacted Traffic Management to see whether the ‘cushions’ could be replaced by full width humps, but was told this would require a new Traffic Order and a long legal process

  4. Rosyth Graveyard. Bereavement Services have installed a beautiful replacement gate.

  5. Parking at The Cairns. The subject had not yet been raised at the last West Area committee. Councillor Callaghan will follow it up.

  6. Garage at Brucehaven Crescent. Councillor Stuart had met the affected residents. She is hopeful that a sensible solution will emerge.

  7. Beach Clean. This was held last Saturday. Thanks Kat for excellent organization and achieving such a good turnout, despite the absence of goodies from Greggs. There is to be another Beach Clean in June.

  1. Police Matters.

  1. Parking problems do not appear to have been addressed.

  2. Written report from Sgt Neill listed four reports: uncorroborated driving complaint on Dunfermline Road, dog bite in Mylneburn Gardens, theft in Upper Wellheads (enquiries on-going), sudden death in Charlestown.

  3. During patrols over the last few weeks Sgt Neill has personally attended at the Scout Hall and there hasn’t been anyone hanging about. (Things may change when the weather improves).


  1. Proposed new houses at Pattiesmuir

  1. Barbara Mackenzie reported on discussions from a meeting of Pattiesmuir residents held last Sunday.

  2. Serious concerns had been expressed about the substantial percentage increase in the number of dwellings in the village, and the consequent pressure on infrastructure.

  3. It is not only the fact that the road is not planned to ever be of adoptable standard. It is also the proposal for a densely packed cul-de-sac with no formal turning space and insufficient width for the safe passing of vehicles. Electricity overhead lines are vulnerable and under-capacity, there having been a number of Pattiesmuir-specific power cuts of late. The mains water pressure is also low. All sewage disposal is by septic tank, either individual or shared – the latter causing some difficulty between the different users.

  4. There has, to date, been no response from the Estate concerning issues raised at the last meeting and, in particular, no information about the relative density of current housing and that proposed in the development.  Kathleen agreed to take the new issues of power and water supply away for consideration.

  5. Residents made a formal request that Broomhall Estate arrange to meet with the residents of Pattiesmuir.


  1. Broomhall Estate

  1. Pothole at north east corner of Charlestown Green needs dealing with. It is a good time to inspect it now because it is not full of water and the depth and sharpness are evident.

  2. The state of the unmade road in Pattiesmuir is again a cause of serious concern.


  1. Dunfermline Advocacy Initiative

  1. Barbara Mackenzie thanked the Community Council for the opportunity for her and her colleague, Tom Bishop, to speak about the work of Dunfermline Advocacy Initiative.

  2. They provide ‘citizen advocacy’ for vulnerable people in the community. Friendships that develop between the clients and their volunteers can be short term or last for years, and they often change lives and prospects for individuals. No qualification is required of the volunteers who are CRB checked and who are provided with appropriate training.

  3. Alex Hill has been a citizen advocate for several months. He described how it worked for him and the client whom he befriends.

  4. Tom is working on a short term project linked to the imminent integration of Health and Social Care in Scotland. This scheme will see the personalization of the care package which vulnerable individuals receive. Tom’s work will involve supporting individuals in selecting and developing the care package which is right for them.


  1. Future of Crombie School

  1. Tony Orton, chairman of Crombie Residents’ Association had asked if he might address this Community Council. (It had been found that, in a small community such as Crombie, it had been difficult to maintain attendance of elected members at such a level that a Community Council there could function. The Community Council had now been replaced by the Residents’ Association, the focus of which, of late, has been the threatened closure of the school.)

  2. The consultation currently underway is on the proposal to close the school and transfer the pupils to Limekilns.

  3. The Residents’ Association, who are campaigning to keep the school open, have a day of action this Wednesday, on the day when Fife Council is hosting a drop-in event at the school. There is also to be a drop-in event at Limekilns school on Thursday of this week. (No-one present had been aware of seeing any overt publicity for this event.)

  4. There has been a suggestion from the Residents’ Association that, in order to keep Crombie open and make best use of the building, the Nursery might transfer to Crombie. A number of reasons were given why this would be unlikely to find favour with parents in Limekilns.

  5. Cllr Callaghan stated that a decision whether or not to close the school would always have to be made against the fact that it costs £15,000 per pupil to keep Crombie open, as against £4,000 per pupil if they were transferred to Limekilns.

  6. Mr Orton was thanked for addressing the Community Council.

  7. (After note, the Chair attended the consultation meeting with the education department in Limekilns School on the Thursday evening and it was noted that the residents of Crombie had proposed moving the nursery from Limekilns to Crombie and that, as a result, Fife Council will be considering and responding to this.)


  1. Arran Imrie, filming project.

Arran lives in Pattiesmuir, and is studying film production. For his student project he has chosen to make three short advertising films for the Sundial Café. He has carried out a lot of preparatory work and it has been suggested by his tutor that he should seek permission for this project. We can only say that we are delighted that he has chosen a local project but that we are not in a position to grant ‘permission’. As Google has demonstrated with its ‘Street View’, anyone can film in the public realm, as long as they do not invade privacy or use images of recognizable individuals without their permission. Secretary will write him a letter of support for his endeavours and wish him well.

  1. Proposed new street lighting columns in Charlestown

  1. Secretary had been contacted by John Anderson of Fife Council, who said that it is proposed to renew the lighting columns in the whole of upper Charlestown.

  2. This raises the serious issue of ‘modern’ versus ‘period’ design. Fife Council policy on this matter has never been consistent, and we have old and new side by side in Limekilns.

  3. The meeting agreed that, since Charlestown Green is such an important conservation area where householders have to conform to very strict guidelines as to what alterations are made to their property, the local authority should not be allowed to get away with using a modern cheaper alternative on the grounds of cost. Many householders would have been delighted to use modern cheaper alternatives on their own properties if that had been ‘allowed’.

  4. Secretary will write to Mr Anderson accordingly.


  1. Application for variation of liquor license at Forth Cruising Club.

The Cruising Club has applied for a variation in licensing hours, so that their modest social programme is not restricted by the necessity to terminate functions early. What is proposed is the standard licensing hours. The Community Council has no objection. Secretary will write to confirm this.


  1. Treasurer's Report

  1. Balances unchanged from last month: BoS - £487.77; DBS - £1710.29; RFRD - £1072.14

  2. End of year accounts have been prepared.

  3. Application form for annual grant has been received.


  1. Secretary's Report.

  1. Forth Bridges anniversary event organisers are looking for volunteers to help with the event. Contact volunteering@indigops.com

  2. Fife Council want to know if we want more drinking byelaw signs. No we don’t.

  3. Secretary had forwarded to the Gala Secretary an email offering wrestling as an entertainment event.

  4. Secretary had received an e-mail asking about placing a memorial bench on the Ballast bank. Kathleen will check with the Estate. Secretary will pass details to Fife Council.

  5. Road works at Halketts Hall this week are to do with undergrounding telephone cables.


  1. Councillor Slot.

Nothing beyond what has been discussed.


  1. AOCB

  1. Cruising Club ‘craning in’ will be on the weekend of 12th – 13th April. Access to Capernaum Pier will be restricted.

  2. The verge at the road junction has been cultivated by Fife Council in anticipation of the planting of annual flower seeds.

  3. Limekilns Pier. Russell Kelly, who was to take a lead on repairs, has been out of action for a variety of reasons.


Date of Next Meeting: Tuesday 29th April 2014 in the Gellet Hall


CHARLESTOWN, LIMEKILNS AND PATTIESMUIR COMMUNITY COUNCIL

MINUTES OF MEETING HELD AT THE GELLET HALL 25.02.2014


Present: Geoff Cartwright, Peter Curry, Sue Hamilton, Lesley Scott, Alex Hill, Ian Cruikshanks, Charlie Reid Thomas,


In attendance: Carole Muir, Fiona Davies, Robin Gray (Pattiesmuir residents), Andrew and Georgia McCafferty and Steve Runciman (with Charlie Reid Thomas), Keith Poulner (Kapital Developments), Suze Anderson, Malcolm Hamilton, David Gray, Margaret Lobley, David Gostick, Callum MacInnes, Lorna Wilkie,


Apologies: Annie Nally, Kat Tebbutt, Tom Scott, Sgt Jillian Neill, Cllr Callaghan.


  1. Minutes of the meeting of 28th January 2014

These were approved as a true record. Lesley proposed; Suze Anderson seconded.

  1. Matters Arising from Meeting of 28th January 2014

  1. CC recruitment. We only have seven full members at present. Secretary has written a CC recruitment piece in Village Link. Callum MacInnes, in attendance today, has recently moved to the village and is interested in joining that Community Council.

  2. Speeding on Overhaven. Results of speed assessment did not provide evidence of a priority need for traffic calming measures, but it will be put on the list for future attention. The new measure that Tom Scott had reported at Grange Road is to be a speed table, rather than cushions.

  3. Crombie School. Councillors voted for closure of Crombie and transfer to Limekilns as of October this year. However, this decision is to be subject of further scrutiny in terms of governance.

  4. Red Row lighting columns. Secretary had elicited a response today. There is to be a planning application for the replacement of the columns like for like with aluminium columns.

  5. FIFEplan consultation. Secretary had made submissions on behalf of the Community Council. Had been wrong-footed by the fact that the consultation closed at 5pm on the final day, rather than 11.59 as it has been in the past. She was given extra time after pointing out that the change of time had not been highlighted. The web site for FIFEplan is well designed. Search for FIFEplan on www.fifedirect.org.uk Click on ‘See the sites for your area’. As you click further on each site, a panel comes up describing the proposal in brief. Click again on ‘comments’ and you will see the comments that have been made.

  6. Representatives from Dunfermline Advocacy will come to the March meeting.

  7. Path reconstruction at the Cairns. Secretary had been told that the total cost of the path had been £5,046.99. She had spoken to Lynn Hoey, Locality Manager, who said that Fife Council priorities meant that additional car parking was out of the question. However, she would ask John McQueen to look at the cost of laying additional ‘Grasscrete’.

  8. Rosyth Graveyard. Secretary had met a man called Mitch of Bereavement Services about the broken gate and collapsed fence.

  9. Beach Clean. This would be on 23rd March. This is to fit in with the Keep Scotland Beautiful clean up season. Another could be arranged later in the season if plenty of volunteers are available.


  1. Police Matters.

  1. Parking problems do not appear to have been addressed.

  2. No crimes have been reported in the villages in the past month.


  1. Junction with A985.

  1. Cameras and speed assessment measures had been in place from Tuesday to Friday last week.

  2. BEAR vehicles seen at the junction today were repairing gullies.



  1. Submarine Dismantling consultation.

  1. We have received no formal notification of this, despite our having been fully involved in the earlier consultation.

  2. The consultation runs until April 22nd (despite the fact that it says, in several places, including the Edinburgh Gazette that it is for 30 days from January 17th)

  3. Tom Leatherland has copied to the Secretary, the letter he has written. Secretary suggests that the main point we shall make is that we should be included on the Local Liaison Committee.

  4. In general, things will be done in such a way as not to endanger workers on site. It is therefore unlikely that there will be radiological hazard to any neighbouring communities.


  1. Broomhall EstateProposed new houses at Pattiesmuir

  1. Andrew McCafferty, planning consultant for Broomhall Estate, presented an outline of the housing sites the Estate hoped to develop in Pattiesmuir.

  2. Steve Runciman, Architect was also present to explain the concept.

  3. Background: An earlier planning application for building on the three plots had been refused on the grounds that access to the main road required visibility splays before any additional houses could be built. Broomhall Estate has subsequently purchased Kilberry Cottage from which garden ground can be released.

  4. The plan prepared for the Estate showed a proposal to build nine houses rather than the four indicated in the previous proposal! This was a great surprise to residents and Community Council alike.

  5. The roadway to access these properties would be improved but would never be of sufficient width to be adopted by Fife Council. This was also at odds with what had been understood with the earlier plans, when the road would have been improved to adoptable standards for the length required to access the new properties.

  6. The proposed roadway is effectively a cul-de-sac but has narrow width and no turning circle so is unlikely to be adequate to serve the number of properties proposed.

  7. The loss of the casual parking area and turning point beyond the College would cause difficulty for all who live in and visit Pattiesmuir.

  8. Addition of 9 properties would constitute an increase of over 40% in the size of Pattiesmuir.

  9. Secretary asked that a copy of the plan be emailed to her for onward distribution.

  10. Pattiesmuir residents were asked to put their concerns in writing to the Estate Office


  1. Hilton Development at Rosyth

  1. Keith Poulner described and explained the plans for the first phase of the development which is to be in the south-west corner near the ‘Lexmark’ roundabout. This is to be shopping parade, including a modest Sainsbury store, with flats above. Design to reflect the garden city architecture.

  2. He had been as surprised as we were when Transport Scotland did not allow access to the new development off the ‘Lexmark’ roundabout. Instead, there is to be a right turn off the hill on Brankholm Brae. This appeared to the Community Council to be a somewhat hazardous option.

  3. Information about the development is available at www.hiltondevelopments.co.uk


  1. Treasurer's Report

  • DBS - £1710.29

  • RFRD - £1072.14

  • BoS - £487.77


  1. Secretary's Report.

  1. Notice received today of an impending review by the Boundary commission of council ward boundaries.

  2. Potholes at Charlestown Green. Major potholes have developed again near the north-east corner. A request was made to the Estate Factor for them to be filled.

  3. Garage site at Brucehaven Crescent. Purchaser of Margaret Tait’s house in Brucehaven Crescent has been refused a transfer of the lease - on the grounds that there is a ‘waiting list’. Fife Council seems to work its ‘system’ without reference to the fact that this is the only Fife garage site or lock-up in the villages and that it has been leased by the same tenant for some 50 years. Secretary has contacted Lynn Hoey and asked her to look into this situation. Neighbours on either side are concerned about additional traffic taking access in a very narrow lane which is, in any case, owned over half its width by the three property owners.

  4. Coal Bed Methane / Fracking. Through her association with Planning Democracy, secretary had been made aware of the appeal lodged by Dart Energy against the refusal of Falkirk and Stirling Councils to grant planning permission for multiple drilling operations around Larbert and Airth. She had become aware that, through our membership of the West Fife Community Council Forum, our Community Council had been included in an objection to the application on behalf of West Fife residents. The Community Council in the Larbert area is working very hard on challenging the proposal. Secretary had written to all Community Councils in Fife, highlighting how close this industry might be coming to our communities. She had received no acknowledgement from any of them, but found that her letter had been printed verbatim as an article in the Courier!

  5. Tomorrow at 1pm in the Rothes Halls there will be a Scottish Police Authority Board meeting to which members of the public are invited.

  6. APRS Newsletter.

  7. Two mailings about funding for community energy projects.


  1. Councillor Slot. No Councillor


  1. AOCB

  1. Today, Secretary had received notice that West Road is to be resurfaced. This is not the long-awaited resurfacing of the carriageway between the corner and the railway bridge, but West Road between the Sutlery and the corner. This is to involve daytime road closure from 10th – 14th March. Meeting suggested it would be an opportunity to replace the awful cushions with full width speed humps. Secretary will enquire.

  2. Limekilns Church has made an application for funding repairs of the building to Fife Environment Trust who require evidence of support from the community by way of a petition. Those present were invited to sign the petition.


Date of Next Meeting: Tuesday 25th March 2

 

 


 

CHARLESTOWN, LIMEKILNS AND PATTIESMUIR COMMUNITY COUNCIL

MINUTES OF MEETING HELD AT THE GELLET HALL 28.01.2014


Present: Sue Hamilton, Lesley Scott, Alex Hill, Annie Nally, Kat Tebbutt, Tom Scott


In attendance: Sgt Jillian Neill, Suze Anderson, Doreen Kempsell, Tom Leatherland, Evelyn and Trevor Jones, Philip and Mary Melville, Rob Thompson


Apologies: Geoff Cartwright, Peter Curry, Allison Macdonald, Kathleen Kilpatrick, Cllr Callaghan.


  1. Minutes of the meeting of 26th November 2013

These were approved as a true record. Lesley proposed, Alex seconded

  1. Matters Arising from Meeting of 26th November 2013

  1. Alex is feeding information onto the Facebook page. Sue will put its address on the Noticeboards and give it a mention in Village Link.

  2. Bins at Limekilns Park. Two new bins have been installed. Thanks to John McQueen.

  3. CC recruitment. Allison MacDonald has indicated that she is stepping down as a member, as she finds it difficult to get to meetings. Thanks Allison for your time on the Community Council. Secretary will write a CC recruitment piece in Village Link

  4. Speeding on Overhaven. Speed assessment was carried out over a period of eight days in mid-January. No results yet. Tom Scott reported that Grange Road is getting one pair of speed cushions to protect children who cross the road en route to school. Meeting was of the view that this should be a full-width hump if it was to be effective.

  5. Crombie School. The outcome of the consultation on the proposed closure of Crombie and inclusion of the village in the Cairneyhill catchment area is that this was unsuitable and will not go ahead. Instead, there is to be a whole new consultation on the proposal to close Crombie and make it part of the Limekilns catchment area!

  6. Red Row lighting columns. Still no action despite reminders by Secretary.

  7. Playgroup has ceased to operate as a service provider for Fife Council. It is likely to reopen in the autumn as a parent-led group operating for fewer hours.

  8. Rosyth Graveyard. Secretary had contacted Liz Murphy of Bereavement Services, who had said an officer would be in touch about the broken gate and collapsed fence.

  9. Road works at the Glen Gates. Fife Council has now terminated the contract with Byzak and will be seeking tenders from other contractors to finish the job. In the meantime, the traffic lights will be removed and the road surface reinstated.


  1. Police Matters.

  1. Sgt Jillian Neill is now Sergeant at Oakley and introduced herself to the meeting. She had attended the recent Community Engagement meeting in Limekilns as well as the recent meeting with BEAR and Transport Scotland (next item). There is now a strong community team at Oakley. The best way to contact them is through the contact centre. Dial 101 and ask to speak to the Oakley community team or leave a message for them.


  1. Junction with A985

  1. With the support of village resident Andy Jones (of the Speed Camera partnership), the Secretary had convened a meeting with Transport Scotland and BEAR to discuss the problems that now exist for traffic turning right out of the villages during the morning and evening peaks. The meeting was attended by George Henry, Road Safety Manager, Transport Scotland, Marco Badelli, Area Manager for Transport Scotland, George Boyd and Stephen Kitt of BEAR, Andy Jones, Sgt Jillian Neill, Peter Curry, Sue Hamilton, Kat Tebbutt, Lesley Scott, Moira Adams.

  2. George Boyd reported on the assessment he had made of the junction. He had found that the junction was functioning ‘well within capacity’ and that the accident record showed that there had been only one serious injury accident in the past ten years. Villagers described their long waits, the risk-taking involved in making a right turn, and the frequency of near misses. It is understood that if drivers of damaged vehicles exchange details at the time of the accident, there may be no record at all of the accident. Furthermore, the absence of street furniture means that vehicles and their occupants often end up relatively undamaged in the field.

  3. The chaotic scenes at the Caledonia Way roundabout on Hilton Road were also alluded to.

  4. Community Council members emphasised that some action is urgently required. An undertaking was made to install a camera to monitor the junction. It was unlikely that there could ever be major intervention such as a roundabout or traffic lights because of the knock-on effect on tail-backs on the A985. A suggestion was made that street lights at the junction would increase driver awareness of the existence of queuing traffic waiting to join the flow. Officers said that they could discuss the shift times with contractors at the Dockyard, but that they needed to collect their evidence first. Officers were thanked for the time and were asked to leave the meeting sharply so that they could have the full right turn experience at around 5.15pm.

  1. Broomhall Estate.

  1. Works behind Charles Court. Secretary reported that water was now only very occasionally flowing onto the road and, when it did so, it did not normally last for more than a few hours. Site meeting still required to think of ways of discouraging walkers and cyclists from using the French drain as a path.

  2. Shoots on the Estate. Shoots generally happen on a Friday during the winter months. The Estate has, this year, erected much more effective notices which clearly advise walkers to take alternative routes and to not take access through the Estate when shooting is in progress. Fife Council’s Access Officer had been contacted by Broomhall Estate because a few individuals are, apparently ignoring the notices. The Access Code advises that the public should be alert to the possibility of shooting taking place and take account of advice on alternative routes. The Access Officer had made a site visit and had spoken to a number of individuals about the need to take ‘responsible access’.


  1. Planning

  1. FIFEplan consultation. Our approved Local Development Plan is the Dunfermline and West Fife Local Plan, adopted in November 2012. With the ink barely dry on it, there is now a consultation on the next Local Plan which will be Fife-wide. Landowners and developers have submitted many of the same sites for inclusion in the plan. As far as our villages are concerned, the land to the east of Limekilns, land to the west of the cricket pitch and the Ballast Bank were submitted for inclusion, but only Ballast Bank has been included in the draft plan – as a site for mixed use development with a potential for 30 houses. One of the Rosyth sites submitted is the field beyond the cycle track bordering Caledonia way ‘for employment and community use’. Secretary will email all those on the village contact list, explaining the situation and that the deadline for responses is 5th February. Meeting agreed to object unreservedly to the Rosyth site for the same reasons as we objected before. The meeting agreed that any development of the Ballast Bank must take account of the asbestos, the flood risk, the amenity of existing properties, and the stabilization of the harbour structures. Thirty houses is too many.

  2. Hilton Development. Plans have been submitted for the first phase of the development east of Brankholm Brae. Secretary has invited Keith Poulner to attend the next CC meeting.

  3. Rosyth Biomass Plant. The Scottish government has suddenly given the go-ahead to the Rosyth Biomass plant. Secretary had re-circulated the CC’s very reasoned letter of objection. Nothing has changed. Indeed the economies of biomass generation now seem more dodgy than ever.

  4. Pitliver. Mr and Mrs Barr of Midmill have, after jumping through many hoops, got permission for the modest house they wanted to build on their property.

  5. A planning application at Brucehaven Crescent was of concern to a neighbour who had raised it with the Secretary. Members were not minded to object to the application.


  1. Submarine Dismantling Project.

Yesterday, we heard that Babcock have submitted an application to the Office of Nuclear Regulation to carry out the dismantling of one submarine at Rosyth. There is a 30-day consultation period, starting on 17th January.

  1. Treasurer's Report

  • DBS - £1710.29

  • RFRD - £1071.81

  • BoS - £555.77 (no longer includes any FDG money)

  • Data protection renewal of £35 has been paid.

  • Treasurer requests that expenses be claimed in time for the year end accounts.


  1. Secretary's Report.

  1. Grant information from Local Area Office. This was passed to Lesley for the FDG.

  2. Dunfermline Advocacy have asked to come and talk to us about their work. Have arranged for Fiona Sword and Tom Bishop to come to the March meeting.

  3. Queen’s Hall AGM Thursday 7pm.

  4. Invitation to a meeting to discuss how Valleyfield disaster 75th anniversary should be marked.

  5. Fife Access Forum event Feb 5th 7 – 9pm.

  6. Loch Leven Walkathon. Poster on the noticeboards.

  7. Path reconstruction at The Cairns. Fife Council workers, a site hut and diggers and dumper trucks arrived unannounced at The Cairns. They were there for the best part of two weeks. It emerged that they were replacing the slab ‘path’ that runs diagonally across the grass, and has proved quite sufficient for the very few people who now use it. A lot of residents are cross that so much time and effort was spent on creating an unnecessary tarmac path, rather than spending money on what they need most – additional parking. Secretary had spoken to residents and undertook to tell the Council of their displeasure. It transpires that this is a rolling programme by ‘Housing’, and no-one ever consults communities or residents as to whether a path is in use. ‘No-one has ever complained before’. She was told we should apply to the locality budget for funds to provide the necessary additional parking spaces.

  8. Dog fouling. Concern had been raised with the Secretary about dog fouling on Charlestown Green. Secretary had contacted the dog warden but was told it is now the job of a Jim Beveridge in ‘Enforcement’. He said that if there was a regular pattern of offending, officers could attend and make their own observations. There is little they can do unless they have good information. There seems to be a problem on dark nights where owners do not keep track of what their dog is up to when it is off the lead!

  9. Medical Waste. On two different occasions medical waste in yellow bags had been dumped on the roadside between Limekilns and Dunfermline. If this happens again, contact the ‘Enforcement’ team as above.

  10. Jayne Baxter MSP letter. Several copies of newsletter had been sent to the Community Council.

  11. Plunkett Scotland had sent information about their activities in Scotland. Plunkett is a Charitable organisation which supports community enterprises. Their advice could be useful if Janice and Jimmy cannot find a buyer for their business.

  12. Letter about Fife’s Cultural Road show.

  13. Fife Carers Newsletter.


  1. Councillor Slot. No Councillor


  1. AOCB

  1. Thanks to a group of energetic volunteers who had done a major tidy-up of Peggy Bell’s Brae.

  2. Kat suggests that Beach clean should be on either 23rd March or 27th April. She will contact Keep Scotland Beautiful.


Date of Next Meeting: Tuesday 25th February 2014 in the Gellet Hall


014 in the Gellet Hall

CHARLESTOWN, LIMEKILNS AND PATTIESMUIR COMMUNITY COUNCIL

MINUTES OF MEETING HELD AT THE GELLET HALL 26.11.13


Present: Peter Curry, Sue Hamilton, Lesley Scott, Alex Hill, Annie Nally, Kat Tebbutt,


In attendance: Cllr Stewart, Kathleen Kilpatrick, Moira Adams, Doreen Kempsell, Ken Kempsell, Tom Leatherland, Mike Graham


Apologies: Geoff Cartwright, Allison Macdonald, Cllr Callaghan.


  1. Minutes of the meeting of 29th October 2013

These were approved as a true record. Alex proposed, Annie seconded

  1. Matters Arising from Meeting of 29th October 2013

  1. We need to make sure our Facebook presence is active. We should put its address on the Noticeboards and give it a mention in Village Link..

  2. Bins at Limekilns Park. Secretary has, today, been told that John McQueen has two bins at the depot which we can have.

  3. CC recruitment. Karen Nicholl and Mike Graham may join in the new year.

  4. War memorial. Secretary had complained that all the old wreaths had been dumped in the bushes rather than being taken away by the council workmen who were supposed to be tidying the site before Remembrance Sunday.

  5. Speeding on Overhaven. Speed assessment yet to be carried out.

  6. Crombie School. Secretary had written to Fife Education officers about the catchment area decision. Cllr Stewart suggested it be copied to Tony Orton.

  7. Fracking in Fife. Secretary had attended a presentation by Friends of the Earth in Glenrothes. She hadn’t felt it very informative. Moira Adams said that an organisation called ‘Frack Off’ had useful literature which she will pass to the Secretary.

  8. Limekilns Park. Queen Elizabeth Field designation. Secretary had been sent a picture of the plaque which will be placed beside a tree that will be planted. No-one really bothered about the designation, but if it gives greater protection to the asset, that’s a good thing.

  9. Scottish Lime Centre. ‘Yard’ Project. Now that training courses are largely based at Merryhill, the open yard at the Lime Centre is an underused space. Consideration is being given to creating an informal outdoor educational lime and stone ‘garden’. This could be a real asset to the villages and give villagers a better connection with what the Lime Centre is and does.

  10. Red Row lighting columns. Nothing done yet.

  11. Christmas Trees. The Charlestown tree will be in the grounds of the Elgin Hotel, in the care of Rob Wemyss. Limekilns tree lighting event will be on 8th December. Thanks to the Estate for the trees.

  12. Playgroup. In the light of the damning hygiene inspection, the endless bureaucracy, and the planned unavailability of the Church Hall for several months next year, Playgroup has decided to fold. This is very sad from a community perspective.

  13. Speed cushions. Secretary had not written to traffic management because she considered we needed to do something of greater impact – such as a petition signed by every household. A petition could be set up on Facebook if someone could do that.


  1. Police Matters.

  1. No communication from the police

  2. Two top-of-the-range cars stolen at 3am from a house in West Harbour – apparently some sort of organised crime event. We hope for more information from the police as to what the vulnerability was.

  3. There had been suspect ‘roofing guys’ going door to door this week looking for work. Police had been informed.


  1. Junction with A985

With the massive increase in traffic resulting from aircraft carrier commuters going to and from Glasgow, our junction is becoming virtually impossible to negotiate at morning and evening peak. Secretary will contact some appropriate people and tell them to get their heads together to sort out a solution. The Glasgow commuters could, apparently, be part of the scene for another eight years until the completion of the second aircraft carrier.


  1. Broomhall Estate.

  1. Works to install a French drain along the back of the houses is now complete. Thanks to all involved. Let’s hope it works!

  2. Woodland Management. A woodland management plan is being drawn up. This will involve the felling of unsafe trees and planting of replacements. We were reassured that there would not be clear felling on the bank between Broomhall and Limekilns as might be surmised from an article in the Dunfermline Press.


  1. Treasurer's Report

  • DBS - £1710.29 (same as last month)

  • RFRD - £1071.81 (same as last month)

  • BoS - £1070.16 (made up of FDG - £431.39 and CC £638.77)

CC transactions this month:

  • Secretary's expenses from April 2013 to Sep 2013 - £40

  • Wreath £25


  1. Secretary's Report.

  1. Fife Council budget consultation events. 6.30pm 4th Dec Rosyth, 12th Dec High Valleyfield.

  2. Fife Council Winter Gritting booklet received.

  3. SESPlan Housing Strategy sent to us for consultation. Not very meaningful for the local context.


  1. Councillor Slot.

Integration of Health and Social Care. The bill is to be implemented in full in April. We hope it will work!


  1. AOCB

  1. Gate of vehicle access into Rosyth Churchyard now completely detached. Secretary will contact Liz Murphy.

  2. Road works at the Glen Gates continue to cause disruption to peoples’ lives. No end in sight, despite promises.


Date of Next Meeting: Tuesday 28th January 2014 in the Gellet Hall


CHARLESTOWN, LIMEKILNS AND PATTIESMUIR COMMUNITY COUNCIL

MINUTES OF MEETING HELD AT THE GELLET HALL 29.10.13

Present: Sue Hamilton, Lesley Scott, Alex Hill, Geoff Cartwright, Annie Nally, Kat Tebbutt,

In attendance: Charlie Reid Thomas, Doreen Kempsell, Ken Kempsell, Tom Leatherland, Mike Graham

Apologies: Peter Curry, Allison Macdonald, Tom Scott, Cllr Stewart, Cllr Clelland.

  1. Minutes of the meeting of 24thSeptember 2013

These were approved as a true record. Geoff proposed, Lesley seconded

  1. Matters Arising from Meeting of 24thSeptember 2013

  1. Information distribution. Secretary had checked her e-mailing lists. All in order. We need to make sure our Facebook presence is active.

  2. Charlestown road surface. Secretary had followed an inspection vehicle at this location! It has now been brought forward as a project and will be done next spring.

  3. Trees on railway line at Merryhill Bridge. Secretary contacted Network Rail. Very helpful customer services, but total denial of responsibility from anyone else! ‘Someone’ has trimmed the main offending hawthorn bush. Thank you.

  4. Public Toilet Review. No news. Toilets have been closed this week ‘for technical reasons’ (key holder on holiday!)

  5. Bins at Limekilns Park. Secretary will alert Pat Callaghan next time he is in the village.

  6. CC recruitment. We need to up the numbers of formal members. Members join by co-option between elections.

  7. War memorial. Planned meeting not held, as no apparent arrangements had been made for Fife Council officers to attend. (An email from Colin Davidson said that he was being moved to Cowdenbeath. Secretary had thanked him for his helpful service over the years.) Lord Elgin happy with any improvement in access that can be achieved. No information about the geology of the mound and why it was called Beggars Knowe. He has offered the services of Estate workers to help keep the area tidy.

  8. Limekilns Pier. Nothing to report.

  9. Speeding on Overhaven. Secretary had a meeting with Iain Henderson and the Fairfields. Secretary left the meeting early, but it is likely that they will do a speed assessment, and there was a suggestion that changing the priorities at South Roundall and Overhaven junctions could interrupt the perception of a straight run from the corner of North Roundall.

  10. Crombie School. Secretary had yet to write to Fife Education officers about the catchment area decision.


  1. Police Matters.

  1. No communication from the police

  2. There had been a number of vehicles interfered with on two or three different nights. It seemed that it was cash that was being stolen. No damage to cars reported, so it is likely that cars had been left unlocked.

  3. Lots of rubbish at the turning circle after cars there at night. Are the police driving round there regularly?


  1. Broomhall Estate.

  1. Flooding at Charles Way. There is a lot of standing water in the ditch, with some westward flow. Fife Council reported that the Estate has collected the pipe from their depot. Kathleen reported last month, that she expected the work to be completed by the end of October.

  2. The Estate will provide a Christmas tree for each village, to be delivered the first weekend in December. Thank you.

  3. The work on the Core Path diversion in front of Broomhall is now almost complete.

  4. Shooting season begins next week. New notices will be erected giving clearer information about when shooting is happening. Secretary again asked that a point is made to ensure the Queen’s Hall gate is unlocked after a shoot – to avoid it being locked over weekends.

  5. Geoff reported that the Pattiesmuir road is developing ruts. He and neighbours have done what they can, but suggest the Estate takes some precautionary action to avoid it deteriorating further.

  6. He also reported that harling has come off the wall of the College beside the door.

  7. This evening, the whole of Pattiesmuir suffered a power cut. It is thought that a tractor in the fields hit an electricity pole


  1. Proposed ‘Queen Elizabeth Field’ designation for Limekilns Park

  1. An organisation called ‘Fields in Trust’ had asked Fife Council to nominate recreation grounds for designation as ‘Queen Elizabeth Fields’ in celebration of the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee, and to protect it from development.

  2. The Community Council couldn’t quite get their heads round why this was necessary, but thought there was probably no harm. A plaque would be erected (and, apparently, we’d get a tree planted). Secretary would request an image of the plaque.


  1. Container Terminal

  1. The Harbour Order was discussed by the Infrastructure and Capital Investment Committee on Sept 25th. The intensity of questions to the Minister from the MSPs was an indication of the doubts they appeared to have about the validity of the project. Nevertheless, they voted it through on party lines. (The SNP have a majority on all the committees.)

  2. It would have gone to the chamber for a straight vote but, with a quickly-acquired knowledge of the parliamentary process, we managed to secure a six minute ‘debate’. This meant it was, for a moment, visible to the wider world. In the event, the SNP and Labour all voted in favour, so the Harbour Order was granted by an overwhelming majority, despite the fact that Clause 17(6), which provided our villages with some protection from adverse effects, had been deleted. We acknowledge the support of the Greens, the Tories, and the Lib Dems on this occasion.

  1. Treasurer's Report

No change from last month


  1. Secretary's Report.

  1. Fife Council budget consultation events. 6.30pm 4th Nov Rosyth, 12th Nov High Valleyfield.

  2. Information evening about ‘Welfare Reform Surgeries’ to be run by CARF. 6.30pm 7th November in High Valleyfield.

  3. Fife Council is running a campaign to recruit more foster parents.

  4. Fife Housing Strategy update received today.

  5. Inner Forth Landscape Initiative presentation evening. MacRobert, Stirling, 26th November.

  6. Red Row lighting columns. A resident of Red Row had asked why they had been left with rusty old columns. Secretary had contacted Ian Jones. It seemed they had been forgotten.

  7. Christmas Tree carol event. Douglas at the church had asked who to get in touch with about preparing for leading of the singing. Derek at the Bruce.

  8. Scottish Lime Centre. ‘Yard’ project information event tomorrow 30th October to share ideas about making the underused courtyard a visitor attraction / education centre. Tea and cakes.

  9. The Lime Centre runs lots of different courses. Secretary receives updates. Some information goes on the Charlestown noticeboard.


  1. Councillor Slot.


  1. AOCB

  1. Playgroup had been subject to an inspection of their premises today. It was deemed that there was poor ‘infection control’ in the loos. The playgroup is threatened with closure unless things are put right within 21 days! Alex volunteered to go through the list with Norman and the Church property convener to suggest what could be done at what cost.

  2. We need to encourage more use of the Mobile Library. Alex will put a note on Facebook, with the timetable of when and where the library stops in the villages.

  3. The subject of the speed cushions in the villages was raised. It is contended that they increase hazard to pedestrians and drivers alike. They damage the alignment of the steering in modest sized vehicles. They have no effect in slowing down buses, trucks, tractors, white vans, and 4x4 drivers – the very vehicles that are most prone to speeding. They cause a massive hazard outside the school where vehicles are parked alongside cushions. Drivers are distracted by the need to manoeuvre their vehicles over and past the humps – thus diverting their attention from the necessity of watching for pedestrians – and children in particular. Villagers are content with the full-width measures installed at Dunfermline Road and Church Street. The meeting asked the Secretary to write to Fife Council requesting that the cushions be replaced by full-width measures.


Date of Next Meeting: Tuesday 26th November 2013 in the Gellet Hall


CHARLESTOWN, LIMEKILNS AND PATTIESMUIR COMMUNITY COUNCIL

MINUTES OF MEETING HELD AT PATTIESMUIR ON 24.09.13


Present: Sue Hamilton, Lesley Scott, Alex Hill, Geoff Cartwright, Iain Cruikshanks, Annie Nally, Allison Macdonald


In attendance: Kathleen Kilpatrick, Cllr Callaghan, Doreen Kempsell, Kenny Fairfield


Apologies: Peter Curry, Kat Tebbutt,


  1. Minutes of the meeting of 27th August 2013

These were approved as a true record. Lesley proposed, Geoff seconded

  1. Matters Arising from Meeting of 27th August 2013

  1. Community Web site. Now that we no longer have a Web site, there is an issue over availability of draft minutes. Approved minutes are on the Fife Direct web site (and on the West Fife Villages web site). Secretary will check her group mailing lists. Sheila Green has requested that she still receive minutes and agendas.

  2. Charlestown road surface. Secretary will arrange to inspect with Pat Callaghan. Cllr Alice Callaghan reported that each of the three areas of Fife now has a ‘Hot box’ for pothole repairs.

  3. Trees on railway line at Merryhill Bridge. Secretary will point out to Pat Callaghan. She will also contact Network Rail (has done. Ref 3711178.)

  4. Public Toilet Review. No news.

  5. Bollard Limekilns Park. Colin Davidson doesn’t seem to have a replacement after all.

  6. Bins at Limekilns Park. Secretary will point out to Pat Callaghan.

  7. Dog Fouling Fortnight. We’re in the middle of it!

  8. CC recruitment. We need to up the numbers of formal members. Members join by co-option between elections.

  9. War memorial. Grass has been cut. Estate has erected a substantial new fence along the boundary with the woods. Kathleen still to ask Lord Elgin what he knows about the geology of the mound and why it was called Beggars Knowe. Next meeting of interested persons will be on October 16th.

  10. Limekilns Pier. Nothing to report.

  11. Speeding on Overhaven. Secretary had not yet written to Scott Blyth but had visited Kenny and Kathryn Fairfield to better understand their concerns. Kenny was invited to tell the meeting why they have raised the issue with Traffic Management and the Community Council. There are now four households on Overhaven who have a fair number of children between them. Their parents encourage them to play together outside, and are teaching them to cycle safely and responsibly. However, living as they do at a T-junction which is the confluence of three straight stretches of road, they are concerned that, seeing straight pieces of roads, drivers inevitably drive faster than they should. The problem is reduced when cars are parked in the road, and residents do deliberately park their cars on the road to reduce drivers’ perception of straight clear roads ahead. They are looking for some means of alerting drivers to the fact that this is a residential street and that they should expect children to be on the roads and footways. There followed a discussion. It was suggested that the 20mph was not enforced nor was it enforceable; a smiley face electronic sign; full width rubber humps. Alice stated that child injury statistics had improved significantly since 20mph zones were implemented in Fife. Secretary will arrange a site visit with Scott Blyth / Iain Henderson. In the meantime, if there were particular repeat offenders, the Fairfields were advised to take down their registration numbers and speak to PC Harvey who could have an advisory chat.


  1. Police Matters.

Secretary had spoken with Mike Harvey today. Nothing to report.


  1. Broomhall Estate.

  1. Flooding at Charles Way. Awaiting delivery of materials. Fife Council will supply the pipe, the Estate will supply and gravel. The intention is to have the watershed along the new drain designed so that about one third of the water flows eastwards. Work should be completed in the next month or so.

  2. Lord Elgin will provide a Christmas tree again this year. Please can we have one for Charlestown too?


  1. Container Terminal

This will be discussed by Infrastructure and Capital Investment Committee tomorrow, Sept 25th.

  1. Treasurer's Report

No change from last month


  1. Secretary's Report.

  1. Fracking in Fife. Central Fife is an area of search. A meeting has been arranged by a Community Council in Glenrothes to which all CCs are invited.

  2. Scottish Water press release today telling of possible water shortages in Central Fife.


  1. Councillor Callaghan

  1. Crombie School. Down to 14 children. 20 already get brought to Limekilns by parents! Main concern is that Fife council want to put Crombie in Cairneyhill’s catchment area. Secretary will write, supporting the case for it to be in Limekilns.

  2. Social work budget is overspent by £10m


  1. AOCB

  1. Both villages achieved silver awards in the Beautiful Scotland competition, snf in Beautiful fife we achieved the same awards as last year. Congratulations to all who have worked so hard for this success.


Date of Next Meeting: Tuesday 29th October 2013 in the Gellet Hall


CHARLESTOWN, LIMEKILNS AND PATTIESMUIR COMMUNITY COUNCIL

MINUTES OF MEETING HELD AT THE GELLET HALL 27.08.13


Present: Sue Hamilton, Peter Curry, Lesley Scott, Alex Hill, Geoff Cartwright, Kat Tebbutt, Iain Cruikshanks


In attendance: Kathleen Kilpatrick, Cllr Kate Stewart, Mike Graham, Tom Leatherland, Tom Flanaghan, Linda MacPhee


Apologies: Annie Nally, Cllr Callaghan,


  1. Minutes of the meeting of 26th June 2013

These were approved as a true record. Alex proposed, Lesley seconded

  1. Matters Arising from Meeting of 26th June 2013

  1. Charlestown road surface. Cllr Callaghan had spoken to Bob McLellan. It is still assessed as not being a priority.

  2. Rural Bins. Progress has been made. Inappropriate bulk bins have been removed from Broomhall entrance. Pattiesmuir situation seems to have been resolved.

  3. Inner Forth Landscape Initiative. Following the drop-in event, the heritage consultant had made proposals for a project involving connections between communities on the different sides of the Forth. Secretary had shared these with Anne Marsh, who hadn’t felt them particularly appropriate just now, but there might be scope to tie things in with the new Forth Crossing when it comes. Secretary gave a résumé of the proposals. The meeting did not feel that there would be a great deal of enthusiasm for making connections across the Forth. It is hard enough to get people to take an active interest in our own community and heritage, without looking to connect with communities on the other side of the Forth.

  4. Public Toilet Review. No news.

  5. Pattiesmuir road. The smoother surface is much appreciated.

  6. Land at the back of the Manse. Secretary had spoken to Ruth Padmore of Playgroup. It was agreed that keeping the area safe and free from brambles would be a major task. On the very rare occasions when Playgroup have wanted to be outside, they have put their play equipment on the mown grass in front of Ivy Cottage, by arrangement with Malcolm Duffin.

  7. Sewage pump at Charles Way. Both pumps have been replaced and are working well.

  8. Planning information evening 22nd August. Secretary had been invited to this event at Fife House.

  9. Road at Pan Knowe has been repaired.


  1. Police Matters.

  1. No contact from the Police.

  2. Report of eggs being thrown at cars. Secretary advised complainant to inform the Police.

  3. Incident of a JCB and trailer witnessed by a number of people driving at excessive speed along the promenade. Driver had been identified and the Police informed.

  4. Cyclists regularly exceed the 20mph speed limit in the village. They are apparently not breaking the law since they have no requirement to monitor their own speed!


  1. Broomhall Estate.

  1. Flooding at Charles Way. Estate had opened a large trench at the back of 1 and 2 Charles Court, and Fife Council had arranged for cameras to be put in the exposed plastic pipes. They seemed to go nowhere. It is unclear who will do what next. Kathleen reported that the land had been ‘subsoiled’ which should improve drainage.

  2. Flooding at South Row. Estate had carried out works to try to address the flooding which is regularly experienced by residents of these properties.

  3. State of the dilapidated ‘Piggery’ buildings at Pattiesmuir is giving residents cause for concern, since children have been ‘playing’ there of late, and there is concern for their safety


  1. War Memorial

  1. Tom Leatherland of the Floral Displays Group had initiated a meeting of interested parties, including the Church, the British Legion, the Community Council, the Estate (who could not attend) the Scouts etc.

  2. There were questions about what could be done to improve access for infirm people and solve the problem of water flowing from a drain down the steps on the west side.

  3. There was general concern about the unkempt state of the surroundings this summer. The grass had not been cut at all and the memorial is virtually invisible from the road.

  4. The representatives from the British Legion were of the view that the memorial should be moved from its present location to the patch of grass to the west. This was not a view generally shared by individual residents and representatives of organisations at the meeting.

  5. The Limekilns memorial was one of the earliest to be erected and is a listed historic structure.

  6. The hill on which the memorial stands was apparently known as Beggars Knowe. No-one knows how much of it is natural rock and how much might be rubble. Kathleen will ask Lord Elgin if he has any information about the structure of the hill.

  7. A further meeting will be held on 16th October to which Fife Council officers will be invited.


  1. Limekilns Pier

  1. There have been various posts on ‘Limekilns Born and Bred 2’ Facebook page about the state of Limekilns Pier.

  2. Iain’s group of interested and willing volunteers will be reconvening shortly and will provide an update of their progress in a couple of months.


  1. Keep Scotland Beautiful. Dog Fouling Fortnight

  1. KSB are organising this in the second half of September. It involves doing a survey of dog fouling, with an apparent general intention of raising awareness of both dog fouling and litter.

  2. They hope to get lots of people to sign up as supporters of a litter-free Scotland. They can back to campaign on-line at www.cleanupscotland.com


  1. Container Terminal

  1. Joint Action Group had compiled a submission to the relevant Parliamentary Committees.

  2. There has been substantial coverage of the shortcomings of the proposal in the business pages of Scotland on Sunday.


  1. Community Web Site. Decision time.

  1. Suze reports that the community website hosting subscription is up for renewal on 13 September for just under £70 and is not sure we should maintain this current site.

  2. The web design tools are poor and this has resulted in the Twitter feeds not working on some browsers. Also, because we use the in-built design tool, we are restricted to 10 pages on the website which isn't really enough.

  3. The website can be terribly slow to load even on a PC, never mind a phone. Furthermore, it's only been accessed 4 times in the past month. Suze suggests that we cancel the website renewal and take some time to rethink what the village wants from this.

  4. The matter was discussed, and it was agreed that we should cancel the subscription.

  5. It was suggested that a more active Facebook page would be a more appropriate way to promote and co-ordinate village activity.

  1. Treasurer's Report

  1. Fife Council grant of £628.80 received. APRS subscription of £25 paid.

  2. Fife Council grant for FDG (£430) also received. Bank of Scotland balance is £1135.16, of which £431.39 is FDG money.

  3. Dunfermline Building Society £1710.29 

  4. Residents for Responsible Development £1071.92


  1. Secretary's Report.

  1. Bollard missing from Limekilns Park entrance. Secretary has spoken to Colin Davidson.

  2. Nessie Stewart reported that litter is regularly redistributed around the play park (by seagulls?). Secretary has asked Colin Davidson to look at the possibility of covered bins.

  3. Scottish Fire and Rescue sent out a consultation.

  4. Fife Licensing Review. Fife sent out, for consultation, a 34-page document, being the proposed new licensing policy. They gave no indication of what had changed, and expected us to comment. Secretary pointed out that this was difficult in the absence of information about what had changed! She was then provided with the information. The alterations are generally technical and mainly concern licensees.

  5. Notice of a planned Forth Bridges Festival in September 2014. Launch event on 4th September 1.30 – 4pm at Orroco Pier


  1. Cllr Stewart

  1. Cllr Stewart had been delighted to attend tennis coaching in Limekilns this summer.

  2. She expressed her surprise at the way Fife Council seems to ‘close down’ for the summer holidays!


  1. AOCB

  1. The trees growing on the embankment at Merryhill Bridge are now obscuring visibility to a dangerous degree. The land belongs to Network Rail. Kathleen will enquire if the Estate can do anything.

  2. Speeding on Overhaven. Kathryn Fairfield of Overhaven had written to Scott Blyth asking for traffic calming on the straight stretch. Scott Blyth had suggested to her that the absence of traffic calming was due to the Community Council who had opposed the proposed scheme. Secretary will write to Scott Blyth, reminding him that the concern of the Community Council had been that the scheme failed to address the most dangerous location for pedestrians which was Church Street, and imposed unnecessary numbers of ‘cushions’ elsewhere. The measures (full width cushions) that we were requesting at Church Street were eventually installed at a much later date. The CC had had no part in the removal of the full width hump which had originally been proposed for Overhaven.

  3. What is happening at the ‘Lexmark’ site? Secretary will enquire.

  4. The Community Council is still seeking more members.


Date of Next Meeting: Tuesday 25th September 2013 at the College, Pattiesmuir.


 

 

 

 

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